Yetti Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 I don't like starting crash threads or commenting on them. For this one I am just very very impressed at the intact cabin and that the door is not even jammed. tail bent 45 degrees and a third of the wing tip gone. Looks like some cartwheel action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIm20c Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Can someone help with the model of that Mooney? Looks like a feathered prop but the front end doesn’t look like a rocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skykrawler Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Sure pushed up a big pile of dirt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Other than the prop, looks like a J to me.Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackn Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Looks like a rocket to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kortopates Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Maybe @Yetti could provide the link where this was found so we wouldn't have to guess which airframe. But I haven't heard of any more recent Mooney mishaps beyond all the recent gear incidents the past couple weeks, so hope this isn't a new one. But most even with most fatals I've seen, the cabin is typically very intact. Although the cabin will easily survive 8+G's on impact the occupants still tend to suffer blunt force trauma well before the cabin becomes deformed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exM20K Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 cowl flaps look like 231, prop looks like a rocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIm20c Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 3J1 Ridgeland, SC according to the thread on BT. Here is the Link 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted February 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 https://fox28media.com/news/local/single-engine-airplane-crashes-in-ridgeland 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjknick@gmail.com Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Looks like JSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M016576 Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 6 hours ago, bluehighwayflyer said: It just looks like a ‘77 or ‘78 M20J with a three bladed prop and wing root and dorsal fin fairings to me. Agreed that the prop appears feathered but I think it is just crash damage. It could be a Missile conversion, but I don’t think so. The cowling looks like OEM M20J to me. Jim It is definitely NOT a missile- the cowling is too short and the exhaust isn’t the same. I think it’s just a stock J with a 3 bladed prop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takair Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Registration is a J. Can’t figure out the prop. I thought it was a Rocket, but others mentioned the cowl isn’t right....it does seem stock J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidv Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Cowl flaps on a J? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M016576 Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 hour ago, bluehighwayflyer said: Yep. They look just like that. Jim Cowl flaps are removed on the missile... I think they are removed on a rocket, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjknick@gmail.com Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 I’ve seen that prop on a C modelSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mjknick@gmail.com said: I’ve seen that prop on a C model My C sports a 3-blade Hartzell. I'm used to shutting down withthe prop control fully forward. Not sure how if would look pulled back. But this one is definitely not at low pitch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M016576 Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, Hank said: My C sports a 3-blade Hartzell. I'm used to shutting down withthe prop control fully forward. Not sure how if would look pulled back. But this one is definitely not at low pitch. Makes me wonder if the pilot accidentally grabbed the condition lever when they meant to grab the mixture.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Oddity of a Missile or Rocket... during a power outage... the prop feathers... Missiles and Rockets use the K’s extended cowl. @mike_elliott landing accident, NO injuries, see News article above for additional minimal details... Just sharing the news... Best regards, -a- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan208 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 The spar in the wing must be very impressive. I am happy to see the tip all mangled and many feet of wing still attached and there . I watched a documentary on Lear jets and their history. Watching them build the wing was cool , way over built. 5 or 6 spars if memory serves. 1 piece complete then attached to the fuselage. I would love to see how an acclaim is assembled , stamped , riveted, ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peevee Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 13 hours ago, M016576 said: Cowl flaps are removed on the missile... I think they are removed on a rocket, too. Rocket has cowl flaps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M016576 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 7 hours ago, carusoam said: Oddity of a Missile or Rocket... during a power outage... the prop feathers... Less an oddity- more a function of using a prop/engine combo pulled from a twin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peevee Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 hours ago, M016576 said: Less an oddity- more a function of using a prop/engine combo pulled from a twin. It's also bad times if the prop governor fails on takeoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted February 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, peevee said: It's also bad times if the prop governor fails on takeoff It was explained to me that the nose of twin props is pressurized with air/nitrogen so if the governor/ oil pressure fails the prop goes full pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M016576 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, peevee said: It's also bad times if the prop governor fails on takeoff But much better times if the engine fails anywhere (16:1 glide ratio). Everything’s a trade off in aviation... Edited February 24, 2019 by M016576 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peevee Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, M016576 said: But much better times if the engine fails anywhere (16:1 glide ratio). Everything’s a trade off in aviation... You realize the prop will try to feather? The glide ratio is probably a lot less than 16 to 1 in that instance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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