3914N Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Loving the glass, but how about something a bit more... vintage? All-original ‘68 paint, interior, and panel (besides updated radios). My wife says I’m a “hipster”! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Be ready to talk electronic CO detectors... They are great for classic panels too... -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3914N Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Photo above is old, already fixed that problem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Disco Green 70s paint scheme 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 On 2/24/2019 at 5:45 AM, jerryg324 said: Beautiful airplane, beautiful panel . . only one suggestion. Let Hector at Aero Comfort cover your yokes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryg324 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 That is nice... Post the panel and paint it looks like a nice ride... I would love to meet a fellow M20L owner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfreelove Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Here's my M20L... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryg324 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Nice looking “L”... Did you have any trouble going to the traditional Throttle, Mixture, Prop controls ? I would love to swap mine over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfreelove Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, jerryg324 said: Nice looking “L”... Did you have any trouble going to the traditional Throttle, Mixture, Prop controls ? I would love to swap mine over... PM sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryb Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Here it is 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonal Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 And I thought the future of Mooney thread was depressing.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 And I thought the future of Mooney thread was depressing.... I think these threads are related, when you can have a plane refurbished to such high standards, why do you need new planes, especially when pilot population is diminishing.Tom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryg324 Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 That is a nice Encore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 The exterior is still original from 1993 The interior and panel have been updated INTERIOR BEFORE: INTERIOR AFTER: PANEL BEFORE: PANEL AFTER: The panel is a little busy right now with a lot of things packed in there, but so far I haven't had to cut a new panel. Eventually I'll either do a JPI 900 or 930 to replace the factory gauges and the Shadin Fuel Flow, but they are all working fine now, so no rush. Aspen Maxs are paid for and should be here around September. If the King AeroCruse230 autopilot ever materializes then the KEA-130A Altimeter and the KAS-297B Altitude Pre-Select can go, however they and the autopilot are working well, so again no rush. At that point I'll think about cutting a new left panel and flush mounting the Aspens, but the way I look at it now they are a half inch closer to me for less money. . lol. I want to think it through so that I only have to cut a new left panel once . . . famous last words. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxrpilot Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 3 hours ago, ArtVandelay said: I think these threads are related, when you can have a plane refurbished to such high standards, why do you need new planes, especially when pilot population is diminishing. Mooney doesn't make the plane I want anymore. Regardless of the money, I'd rather have a brand new 252 Encore than an Acclaim Ultra. But since Mooney won't build them, I'll have to refurbish mine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxrpilot Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Maybe when I'm not up to flying in the flight levels any longer, I'll move from a 252 to an E. I think an E restored to factory new condition, much like @Bob_Belville would be awesome. An all glass panel would remove the vacuum pump, LED's to remove power packs, a composite prop on the nose, and the removable back seats out of my 252, might give the E 1100 lbs of useful load. Add the LASAR speed mods and the @Sabremech cowl and it would likely outrun most J's. It would be a hot rod for sure. #whatMooneyshouldbuild 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 17 hours ago, larryb said: A question for you @larryb - How do you use the KAS-297B Altitude Pre-Select without a KEA-130A Encoding Altimeter? Do you have something that feeds grey code signals to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradp Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Here’s our little project - So far we have done paint, windows, most of the interior (only seat covers are left), some LEDs, and a couple of iterations of a step-by-step panel project. I’ve done most everything except paint and the front windshield. Next is autopilot and looks like I’m in for a nav/com2 real soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko182 Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 7 hours ago, larryb said: Here it is How do you like the 2 650s vs one 750? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Belville Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 9 hours ago, gsxrpilot said: Maybe when I'm not up to flying in the flight levels any longer, I'll move from a 252 to an E. I think an E restored to factory new condition, much like @Bob_Belville would be awesome. An all glass panel would remove the vacuum pump, LED's to remove power packs, a composite prop on the nose, and the removable back seats out of my 252, might give the E 1100 lbs of useful load. Add the LASAR speed mods and the @Sabremech cowl and it would likely outrun most J's. It would be a hot rod for sure. #whatMooneyshouldbuild @gsxrpilot: Paul, my Useful load is 900# because the gross for Es is only 2575. A full fiberglass SabreCowl 2 might save a little empty weight. I guess you're thinking 1100 would be with the back seats out. I think it would be tough to get there. I do have ~60# of extra weight: speed brakes - 9#, 64 gal bladders - 35#, and one piece belly - 10#, 2nd landing light, lens - 5#. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviatoreb Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) Just thinking out loud. Totally unlikely and way too expensive to consider someone actually doing but: wouldn't a wing replacement STC be cool? Along the lines of sabrecowl, a full carbon fiber wing replacement. Lighter, stronger, more durable, corrosion resistant and more aerodynamic. Easy (right), Just build up an identical wing, all the same spars, in carbon fiber but perhaps properly thickened or whatever appropriate for the material, designed in cad, and then cover in smooth carbon sheets. Easy. Said a guy who knows little to nothing about carbon fiber work. Then just "pop off" the old wing and pop on the new one. Sounds expensive. Edited February 28, 2019 by aviatoreb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike20papa Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 To a Stearman pilot, some of these cockpit photos would make one wonder, ".. so just how many smart screens does it take to get that Mooney off & then back down the ground?" Or is it just entertainment while the auto pilot does all that? Brings to mind David Bowies TV walled bedroom in "the man who fell to earth" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_H Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, mike20papa said: To a Stearman pilot, some of these cockpit photos would make one wonder, ".. so just how many smart screens does it take to get that Mooney off & then back down the ground?" Or is it just entertainment while the auto pilot does all that? Brings to mind David Bowies TV walled bedroom in "the man who fell to earth" It's a bunch of little screens for now... just wait until it's one big screen. Alexa: Confirm Gear Down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 Let's hope Siri is not involved. "Siri, Confirm Gear Down" "You'd like some ice cream? Okay, here what I found on the web for you." -Siri 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxrpilot Posted February 27, 2019 Report Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Bob_Belville said: @gsxrpilot: Paul, my Useful load is 900# because the gross for Es is only 2575. A full fiberglass SabreCowl 2 might save a little empty weight. I guess you're thinking 1100 would be with the back seats out. I think it would be tough to get there. I do have ~60# of extra weight: speed brakes - 9#, 64 gal bladders - 35#, and one piece belly - 10#, 2nd landing light, lens - 5#. Yeah, I'm just thinking of what could be done to result in a very light E. Pulling my back seats out is 26# and since it's rare that anyone is sitting back there, I'd rather leave that 26# in the hangar. I'd probably leave off the speed brakes and the bladders, add a composite prop, and then a few bits here and there... maybe a UL of 1000# is more realistic. The E is the original Mooney hot rod. It would be fun to build one as light and fast as possible. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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