211º Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 We have a monthly IMC club at Lunken that I attend. It’s purpose is to learn from other pilots and situations (kind of like “I learned about flying from that” in Flying magazine.) Frequently, when reviewing the incident we mention that “we wouldn’t have done that” or “why didn’t he ask the controller for help” or “why didn’t he declare an emergency” While the tips and tricks are educational and useful, I am slowly getting the idea that more than the tips and tricks, we are training ourselves that declaring an emergency is ok and might be quite useful. When preparing to land yesterday, the Johnson-bar gear “felt weird” when deploying. Instead of just pushing it out of my brain, I mentioned it to the controller and asked for a looksie from the tower via a low approach. It turned out to be a non-event, but I think that the IMC club training helped train my brain the ask for help. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steingar Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 I go to the one here even though I'm a VFR only pilot and likely to remain that way fro some time, assuming I remain a pilot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxrpilot Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 hour ago, steingar said: assuming I remain a pilot. Once a pilot, always a pilot. There's no expiration date on that certificate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midlifeflyer Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 hour ago, steingar said: I go to the one here even though I'm a VFR only pilot and likely to remain that way fro some time, assuming I remain a pilot. Keep an eye out. Since EAA took over the program, we are starting to see VMC clubs also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midlifeflyer Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 hour ago, 211º said: While the tips and tricks are educational and useful, I am slowly getting the idea that more than the tips and tricks, we are training ourselves that declaring an emergency is ok and might be quite useful. Thank goodness. It's time that silliness about declaring being a bad thing ended. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 I've only made a few IMC Club meetings, since there's not one really close to me. The closest one is across the line into Eastern Time, they start too soon to when I get off work. The other one sends out notices irregularly, and I log between 1.5 and 2.0 roundtrip. But the discussions are always good, even when it's procedures and not oopsies. Wish there was one closer . . . And no, I will not be starting one at my airport of a single plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danb Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 jeez I don't know of any in our area DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbridges Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 5 hours ago, 211º said: We have a monthly IMC club at Lunken that I attend. It’s purpose is to learn from other pilots and situations (kind of like “I learned about flying from that” in Flying magazine.) Frequently, when reviewing the incident we mention that “we wouldn’t have done that” or “why didn’t he ask the controller for help” or “why didn’t he declare an emergency” While the tips and tricks are educational and useful, I am slowly getting the idea that more than the tips and tricks, we are training ourselves that declaring an emergency is ok and might be quite useful. When preparing to land yesterday, the Johnson-bar gear “felt weird” when deploying. Instead of just pushing it out of my brain, I mentioned it to the controller and asked for a looksie from the tower via a low approach. It turned out to be a non-event, but I think that the IMC club training helped train my brain the ask for help. I think these discussions are good. I was talking to a friend who got overwhelmed with a course addendum while flying IFR and got an earful from ATC. I asked him why he didn't request a heading until it was loaded and why he didn't tell ATC he was getting a little behind. He said he didn't think to do that. It was something I picked up at one of the summit meetings. Little things like that are useful to learn. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midlifeflyer Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 17 hours ago, Danb said: jeez I don't know of any in our area DB https://www.eaa.org/eaa/pilots/EAA-pilot-proficiency/imc-club/find-an-imc-club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danb Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, midlifeflyer said: https://www.eaa.org/eaa/pilots/EAA-pilot-proficiency/imc-club/find-an-imc-club Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steingar Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 22 hours ago, gsxrpilot said: Once a pilot, always a pilot. There's no expiration date on that certificate. Yeah, but the airplane is eating me alive. I've put a deadline on recruiting partners. If I fail, I sell the aircraft and bail on aviation. Don't want to, I love flying. But i can't do what I can't afford. Good news is a couple guys are thinking about signing on, so there's hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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