Candy man Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 We are getting ready to pull the engine for an overhaul and want to add a jpi 900. Without redoing too much where should we put it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Well, the obvious solution is just to replace your DG with a G5 HSI and remove the top CDI and put the JPI there... Or really check and see if it fits above the audio panel once you remove the cluster gauge, I can't tell just by looking. (Personally, I'm leaving my tach and MP gauge, but pulled the cluster) I wouldn't want the 900 any farther right than where your tach is now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko182 Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 If it were me, get an HSI, remove the top CDI, and put the 900 upright where the top CDI used to be. You have a 480, which is compatible with the G5 HSI. You can put it on the right side of the panel and keep the current setup you have, but after flying with a JPI 700 on the right side of the panel, I'd much rather prefer the JPI right in front of me, which is why when my 900 gets installed in about 1 and a half weeks, it's going to be right in front of me. Annoyingly, if you install a G5 HSI, might as well install the G5 AI, and cut a new panel, and get rid of the vacuum system. as you can see, this is a very slippery slope. tread lightly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko182 Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Steve W said: Well, the obvious solution is just to replace your DG with a G5 HSI and remove the top CDI and put the JPI there... Or really check and see if it fits above the audio panel once you remove the cluster gauge, I can't tell just by looking. (Personally, I'm leaving my tach and MP gauge, but pulled the cluster) I wouldn't want the 900 any farther right than where your tach is now. Quite odd how I posted the identical thing you said at the same time. Great minds think alike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Niko182 said: Quite odd how I posted the identical thing you said at the same time. Great minds think alike. Well, it's a Mooney, it's not like it's one of those Beechcraft with 300 acres of panel space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxrpilot Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Yep, exactly what @Steve W and @Niko182 said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 And I would lose the 6x1 instruments, tach, mp...etc. That will open stack space for a new gps navigator You can also get rid of the GPSS switch, G5 have that built in. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL757 Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Candy man said: We are getting ready to pull the engine for an overhaul and want to add a jpi 900. Without redoing too much where should we put it? Can you remove the engine strip gauges and mount the 900 there in landscape mode? Not sure by looking if that space will support a 900. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 I say, strip her down and redo it all! You might want to explore putting this on a CAD and play with options. The depth you have will limit what you can do in some areas. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Belville Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 So, I gave these guys 2 hours to mess with your mind... You're going to lose the FP/MP and Tach gauges (as well as the strip gauges across the top). The proper place for that same info is right there above the right yoke. But you might consider that the installation money you save by not messing with the left panel would probably allow you to upgrade to the 930! I think you will be glad you did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSMooniac Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 I'm in the camp of having it on the pilot side...you'll look at it more than any other instrument so it deserves to be close. Going to a G5 HSI and selling a CDI is a great plan if your budget supports it. Or going whole-hog for dual G5 and a new panel, vacuum-delete, etc is even better since we're spending your money I'm still figuring out what HSI/PFD solution will be right for me, but 3 years ago I put my 900 in where my 700 used to live. It's great, but I prefer a landscape orientation. To do what I did required deleting my throttle quadrant and installing later model linear engine controls, which was a tremendous PITA and way worse than adding an HSI would be to your panel...Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 48 minutes ago, KSMooniac said: I'm in the camp of having it on the pilot side...you'll look at it more than any other instrument so it deserves to be close. Going to a G5 HSI and selling a CDI is a great plan if your budget supports it. Or going whole-hog for dual G5 and a new panel, vacuum-delete, etc is even better since we're spending your money I'm still figuring out what HSI/PFD solution will be right for me, but 3 years ago I put my 900 in where my 700 used to live. It's great, but I prefer a landscape orientation. To do what I did required deleting my throttle quadrant and installing later model linear engine controls, which was a tremendous PITA and way worse than adding an HSI would be to your panel... Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk And I am the peacemaker and believe it should be in the middle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSMooniac Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 And I am the peacemaker and believe it should be in the middle. But can you see it if you have one of your ladies in front???Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylw314 Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 2 hours ago, KSMooniac said: But can you see it if you have one of your ladies in front??? Noooooooo! You KNOW what's coming next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko182 Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 59 minutes ago, jaylw314 said: Noooooooo! You KNOW what's coming next! What comes next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 What comes next? There’s always this one newbie who had to ask... Tada! Just kidding! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orionflt Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 SMH You keep shaking it buddy. Just make sure you are shaking the correct one. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Peace Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 I have the JPI 900 in my C. You will be so happy if you put it in front of your face. It needs to go where the top CDI is. You can mount it vertical. You will be grateful Get the dual G5's and get rid of the vacuum system. Also do not forget to flush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko182 Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jim Peace said: I have the JPI 900 in my C. You will be so happy if you put it in front of your face. It needs to go where the top CDI is. You can mount it vertical. You will be grateful Get the dual G5's and get rid of the vacuum system. Also do not forget to flush. Flush mount g5s and 900. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxrpilot Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Flush mount makes it look factory. I believe I have the very first flush mounted G5 in the country. Garmin didn't have a mount for it yet, but it turns out the EDM900 flush mount also fits the G5... with minimal modifications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danb Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 I’d like it on the pilot side or no farther than the middle like Chris depicted, not sure how old or how great you’re close vision is, I have a G1000 with the engine stuff on the right obviously the largest monitor in our Mooneys when my eyes are tired it’s still difficult to see everything. Luckily if an alert pops up it is seen all over the place therefore try to get it as close as possible to your best vision field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Belville Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Danb said: I’d like it on the pilot side or no farther than the middle like Chris depicted, not sure how old or how great you’re close vision is, I have a G1000 with the engine stuff on the right obviously the largest monitor in our Mooneys when my eyes are tired it’s still difficult to see everything. Luckily if an alert pops up it is seen all over the place therefore try to get it as close as possible to your best vision field. Dan, for some of us, post cataract surgery, a little farther away is sometimes better. Bifocals are not a great substitute for young eyes. For me, I can see the right panel better without correction than the left panel though the bifocals which work better at half that distance. Night, forget about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danb Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Bob I forgot about night years ago.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIm20c Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 The 900 is too small for the right panel IMO. The main gauges are easy to read but the small ones, like oil pressure on the right side of the screen, are very hard to easily scan. No alarms on the oil pressure unless it drops off completely. The 930 is easier for my eyes to read even from across the cockpit. I never find my Aspen hard to read during flight unless I’m trying to use it from the copilot seat. It’s worthless from the right seat, again IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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