Mcstealth Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 I guess I should know this, but why is the max gross weight and takeoff weight 12 lb different? I guess this is on all long bodies? Is there something very specific for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpaul Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 The 12lbs is the amount of fuel you burn from start up to take off ~2gal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcstealth Posted February 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) Maybe I should ask this in a different manner. Why can't a Mooney legally take off at Max gross? Edited February 4, 2019 by Mcstealth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kortopates Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Mcstealth said: Maybe I should ask this in a different manner. Why can't a Mooney legally take off at Max gross? It most certainly can take off at max gross weight, but I am a bit confused since the POH's (from memory) will refer to a maximum ramp weight which is 8-12 lbs more than max gross weight which enables you to taxi to the runway a bit overweight in order to takeoff at max gross weight. Edited February 4, 2019 by kortopates 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 Mooneys are useful load challenged, so factory was just maximizing it, every pound helps.Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 5 hours ago, ArtVandelay said: Mooneys are useful load challenged, so factory was just maximizing it, every pound helps. Tom Blasphemy! Mooney’s are perfect in every way. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Gravel Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 16 hours ago, M20Doc said: Blasphemy! Mooney’s are perfect in every way. Clarence OK, so we now know who had their wheaties today.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 And here I just thought it was to make the "personal airliner" more airline-like . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidv Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 37 minutes ago, Hank said: And here I just thought it was to make the "personal airliner" more airline-like . . . . . I really feel like an airliner when I need to burn off 168 lbs of fuel to land! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Davidv said: I really feel like an airliner when I need to burn off 168 lbs of fuel to land! That's over half a tank and 450 nm range for me . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidv Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Hank said: That's over half a tank and 450 nm range for me . . . . Ha, to be fair that’s only at max gross weight, where I try not to fly that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 When the O gets filled to MGTW... expect to burn an hour of fuel to be below MGLW.... This is a standard based on leg strength.... If you have awesome pilot skills, landing on a smooth runway, your leg strength probably won’t be challenged... Expect stalling 10’ above the runway to be a bad idea... at MGTW.... The other things that change with weight should be taken into consideration... stall speeds and landing speeds will be greater.... PP thoughts only, not a CFI... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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