Danb Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Ok I know I need brakes maybe, it’s been about 5-6 years, just put on new tires and the brakes need quite a bit of pressure to stop the rascal and the parking brake doesn’t hold on runup, since new tires were installed( not really bad but preventative) could something be messed up since the tires were just changed or a coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilermonkey Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Wow. We replace ours every other year if not every year.Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrach Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 29 minutes ago, Boilermonkey said: Wow. We replace ours every other year if not every year. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Brakes every other year? Are you based at a 1500' strip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrach Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 @Danb Your mx professional will be able to tell how much friction material is left on the pads. The thing is, if the pads are worn to the point of being ineffective, you may have bigger problems. I am wondering if something else isn't causing problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilermonkey Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Nope...three owners....lots of time.Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Get a flashlight and camera phone. The pads are easier to see from the rear. Easy to replace with 3 tools and 30 minutes. The better question is how old is your brake fluid? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Dan - your Bravo will have the calipers flipped and it should be pretty easy to see your pad conditions. Here is what you are looking for. You’re looking for the thickness of the things with red dots on them (I put red dots on my photo). I hope this brake thing isn’t spreading like the measles. I am close to calling my brakes back to normal. Still had to do some more bleeding to stiffen them up some.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danb Posted January 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Thanks this just started, seems when you have n annual or something done other things seem to occur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Thanks this just started, seems when you have n annual or something done other things seem to occur Of course it does! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Wear indicators Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMan Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 On 1/8/2019 at 9:06 PM, Boilermonkey said: Nope...three owners....lots of time. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk I did pads twice on my M20F over 1100 hours and I operate out of a short strip with regards to brakes being relatively inexpensive. Almost sounds like someone is taxiing with their feet heavy on the brakes. Do you have an owner that has flat spotted more tires than anyone else? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 On 1/8/2019 at 7:25 PM, Boilermonkey said: Wow. We replace ours every other year if not every year. OMG!! I'm in my 12th year of ownership and have put hundreds of landings on my C at my home fields of 3000' over the trees and now 3200'. Neither brakes nor tires were new when I bought her, but I replaced the mains about 4-5 years ago and the nose most recently at annual last year. Call it 700+ hours on the tach, more in my logbook, and I haven't replaced the brakes yet . . . What are ya'll doing? My final approach speed is 85 mph, slowing to 75 mph near the runway (there's no fence to come over), minus another 5 mph for every 300 lb below gross for that landing. When I land, I raise flaps after the nose comes down, and brake gently after IAS falls below 50 mph on rollout. So far, so good, but beginning to plan and look for brake pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 Minimum pad thickness for organic linings is 0.100”. The newer linings have the wear indicator as shown above. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylw314 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, M20Doc said: Minimum pad thickness for organic linings is 0.100”. The newer linings have the wear indicator as shown above. Clarence What does the wear indicator look like? I'm not sure what I'm looking at in @Yetti's photo other than his forehead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, jaylw314 said: What does the wear indicator look like? I'm not sure what I'm looking at in @Yetti's photo other than his forehead There is a small indentation on the lining, against the disc. I’ll get a picture later today. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylw314 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, M20Doc said: There is a small indentation on the lining, against the disc. I’ll get a picture later today. Clarence I think I see that. But it seems to go all the way up to the backing plate, how does it tell you when to change the pad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, jaylw314 said: I think I see that. But it seems to go all the way up to the backing plate, how does it tell you when to change the pad? When the indicator disappears, the lining is worn to the rivets. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylw314 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Yetti said: I guess it sort of looks like the indicator goes all the way to the metal backing pad, but I might be seeing it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 These are pretty new pads and the wear indicator only goes about half way. There has to be some pad material for the rivets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 Here is the lining on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PT20J Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 All this wear indicator discussion is interesting, and certainly pads should be replaced when indicated by wear indicator or thickness measurement, but don’t pads generally continue to provide braking until worn to metal contact? The original post was regarding poor braking after wheel maintenance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwing Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 Back to the lack of braking....if pads checkout,its time to top off brake fluid reservoir and bleed out the old orange looking semi gelled fluid till it goes to bright red...Bravos are tough on brakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylw314 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, M20Doc said: Here is the lining on its own. Ooooh, okay, that's what I thought. @Yetti's pic looks like the indentation goes all the way down, but it must just be a trick of the light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 It is possible that something was assembled incorrectly, the lining faces may have been contaminated during reassembly. There are 2 different types of brakes installed on Bravo airframes, single and dual pistons. The linings may need to be reconditioned. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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