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Can-o-worms??  What are folks thinking of this solution... seems hard to beat for easy and simplicity... the engineer in me likes both...

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As I mentioned in another thread, I bought Tail Beacon for my experimental back in September. 

Installed in virtually no time.  You use your smart phone to program it.  The logbook entry (they tell you what to say) took almost as long as the actual installation.  :lol:

First time I flew it, the report came back all OKay.

For my experimental, it was definitely the way to go.  For my Mooney, I'm still weighing the options.  Obviously, I am not happy about Garmin's suit and that will probably prejudice me against a Garmin solution for the Mooney.

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cool - forgive me fore being naive - why are folks waiting for the tail beacon vs the one on the wingtip - looking to learn what I don't know...

 

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My SkyBeacon came in on Friday and is sitting on my table waiting on time to get it installed.  Would have done it this weekend except the rain didn't stop until late Sunday and unfortuanately I don't have a hangar.  May try to take an afternoon this week to go intall it so I can work with my A&P.  Pirep to follow.

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1 hour ago, joekinnc said:

cool - forgive me fore being naive - why are folks waiting for the tail beacon vs the one on the wingtip - looking to learn what I don't know...

 

 

If you have the modern style wingtips vs the squared off vintage tips then the skybeacon won’t fit and the tail beacon is a better option. Also folks might not like the appearance of the skybeacon. I plan on installing the companion right side nav light so they will match up and satisfy my OCD.

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1 hour ago, joekinnc said:

cool - forgive me fore being naive - why are folks waiting for the tail beacon vs the one on the wingtip - looking to learn what I don't know...

 

I have the 201 wingtips with the lighting enclosed under a cover. Tail beacon is the solution for me. 

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So does the skybeacon work with any existing mode C transponder?  I have an old KT 76 TSO that works fine and I don't want to replace it if I don't have to.

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39 minutes ago, skydvrboy said:

So does the skybeacon work with any existing mode C transponder?  I have an old KT 76 TSO that works fine and I don't want to replace it if I don't have to.

Yes, if your existing transponder/encoder work fine then the Uavionix system is a great way to go.  

https://uavionix.com/

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8 hours ago, joekinnc said:

cool - forgive me fore being naive - why are folks waiting for the tail beacon vs the one on the wingtip - looking to learn what I don't know...

 

Some of us have LED nav lights already, no point in throwing one side away. Plus, like said above- OCD. The tail unit is nice and neat

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I notice on the uavionix website that the Skybeacon lens is clear so you can see all the guts of the assembly. It's not a dealbreaker, but I'm not a fan of that. Are production units like this or was the clear lens just for marketing purposes?

Also, what have they done for security on these units? I imagine they are mounted with screws and even if you used security head screws, they are pretty easily bypassed with a tool you can buy at most hardware stores. Is the Sykbeacon registered/encrypted to the aircraft it was originally purchased for so that it can't be used on another aircraft (ergo, no point stealing it)?

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16 minutes ago, Sime said:

I notice on the uavionix website that the Skybeacon lens is clear so you can see all the guts of the assembly. It's not a dealbreaker, but I'm not a fan of that. Are production units like this or was the clear lens just for marketing purposes?

Also, what have they done for security on these units? I imagine they are mounted with screws and even if you used security head screws, they are pretty easily bypassed with a tool you can buy at most hardware stores. Is the Sykbeacon registered/encrypted to the aircraft it was originally purchased for so that it can't be used on another aircraft (ergo, no point stealing it)?

It would be nice if folks did a little reading on the product being discussed before commenting. https://uavionix.com/

“The certified skyBeacon and tailBeacon feature a unique password secured configuration interface via Wi-Fi.  A user must enter the password to change the device configuration including the aircraft ICAO and callsign.   The password is unique to the device, and once configured, cannot be reconfigured for another aircraft without that password. The password is essentially an anti-theft key, and should be kept secure with aircraft record.  There are no external markings or indications on the skyBeacon or tailBeacon to indicate the password. uAvionix will be able to provide the password if lost provided proof of purchase can be validated.”

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17 hours ago, joekinnc said:

cool - forgive me fore being naive - why are folks waiting for the tail beacon vs the one on the wingtip - looking to learn what I don't know...

 

I spent $1000 on Whalen LED NAV/Strobes that look great. Don’t want to have something hokey that sticks out on the wingtip and doesn’t have a strobe. 

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15 hours ago, Sime said:

Also, what have they done for security on these units?....

Though the Tailbeacon is passcode protected, an uninformed theif might think it's a great way to get ADS-B compliant.  It wouldn't be until he tried to reinstall the unit the passcode would come into play.

The small allen screw would, perhaps, deter a walk-by thief, but the unit itself is both easily installed....and removed.

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13 hours ago, SantosDumont said:

I spent $1000 on Whalen LED NAV/Strobes that look great. Don’t want to have something hokey that sticks out on the wingtip and doesn’t have a strobe. 

I don't disagree with not changing LED nav/strobes if you already have them done, but it does have a strobe.

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42 minutes ago, Mooneymite said:

Though the Tailbeacon is passcode protected, an uninformed theif might think it's a great way to get ADS-B compliant.  It wouldn't be until he tried to reinstall the unit the passcode would come into play.

The small allen screw would, perhaps, deter a walk-by thief, but the unit itself is both easily installed....and removed.

if it was not password protected, it would be a great way to track thieves 

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41 minutes ago, Mooneymite said:

Though the Tailbeacon is passcode protected, an uninformed theif might think it's a great way to get ADS-B compliant.  It wouldn't be until he tried to reinstall the unit the passcode would come into play.

The small allen screw would, perhaps, deter a walk-by thief, but the unit itself is both easily installed....and removed. 

What deters the walk by thief from pulling off $500 LED nav lights?  Ones without any identifying marks on them?  I know plane theft happens and stuff gets stolen out of/off of planes, but this is an odds game.  How often does that really happen? Again, not saying it's not worth considering.

With that said, if I ran across a security set of 6x32 screws I would definitely use those to intall vs. #2 phillips screws.

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11 minutes ago, Mike Ropers said:

Is the tail beacon requiring an independent power run? 

Easy Installation

Installation is as simple as replacing the aft aircraft position light.  

  • No airframe modifications or additional antennas are required.

  • Works with any  Mode C or Mode S transponder.

  • Transponder data is provided via the existing aircraft wiring system using the Power Transcoder.

  • tailBeacon uses the existing mounting location, breaker, and wiring.

  • The installation requires 2 screws and reuses the existing power and ground to your current position light

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