Cyril Gibb Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Stuck here in the Outer Banks of North Carolina forced to eat seafood while the icing dissipates around the Great Lakes.... I was thinking; why the dual yokes? Almost all light planes are flown solo, or with a single passenger that is typically very unlikely to be able to take control. Dual yokes and dual rudder pedals ? Why? Tradition? Cars don’t have dual controls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DualRatedFlyer Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Always wondered about taking the copilot yoke out of the Mooney. Would make for more entry/exit room, as well as a more comfortable flight. Almost always removed the copilot controls in the helicopter when I wasn't instructing. Would have the student remove them when going solo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Cyril Gibb said: Stuck here in the Outer Banks of North Carolina forced to eat seafood while the icing dissipates around the Great Lakes.... I was thinking; why the dual yokes? Almost all light planes are flown solo, or with a single passenger that is typically very unlikely to be able to take control. Dual yokes and dual rudder pedals ? Why? Tradition? Cars don’t have dual controls. It sure does make for easier flight training! Some driving schools install second steering wheels and brakes on the right side, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steingar Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 I imagine the dual controls are there for you to be trained to fly your airplane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydvrboy Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Is there any regulatory compliance issues with taking them out? Not that I would, I like being able to have my "co-pilot" take the controls to make other tasks easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, skydvrboy said: Is there any regulatory compliance issues with taking them out? Not that I would, I like being able to have my "co-pilot" take the controls to make other tasks easier. That sounds to me like a Major Mod, Form 337, etc. Shouldn't need a DER, although it will move the CG forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 As explained to me by the CMDR.... Fighter jets don't have dual instruction. Turn that, push that, do that. I think you get 3 chances to land on the carrier, then your career is over. Don't suck at flying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flight2000 Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Someone say they wanted a single yoke. Oh wait, wrong type aircraft.... Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flight2000 Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 5 hours ago, Yetti said: As explained to me by the CMDR.... Fighter jets don't have dual instruction. Turn that, push that, do that. I think you get 3 chances to land on the carrier, then your career is over. Don't suck at flying. Well, that's sort of true....fighter pilots do get some dual training in some air frames. F22's, F35's, not so much. They do get plenty of land side practice, but it's still a whole nother ballgame trying to hit a moving landing strip in the middle of an ocean. This is the Navy Auxiliary Airfield just SW of Norfolk, VA. They have it painted on both ends of the runway. Brian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Fox Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 As far as I know , NO WAY to remove a primary flight control … Unless it is certified that way ...Beech had the forethought to address this , as well as DeHavilland , Most helicopters , not sure of others... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 The right side yokes are for... - primary training... - comfort... - wishful thinking... - helping out with the flight duties... - becoming comfortable as a right seater... - if nobody ever sits there... it’s a back-up yoke in case the one you are using falls off... - sort of like right side brakes... nice to have for the day you want to start flying from the right seat... - makes a nice official looking place to hang the copilot headset. - gives the right seater the name co-pilot. Otherwise they are just a front seat passenger. - the right side is where I store my extra yoke and pedals. - the spare iPad mounts there... If it were allowed... How much of a weight savings can be found by removing yokes, shafts, pedals and breaks from the right side... 10Lbs? PP thoughts only, not a mechanic... Cyril, I hope your weather clears up soon... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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