jazztheglass Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 So, at supper tonight at what I consider the world's best fly in restaurant (Les relais, Louisville, KY) I had the conversation with some pilots about what model airplanes correspond to model cars. We agreed upon cessna 172 (Ford taurus) and even cessna 152 (ford escort). When it came to Baron's we said Range Rovers. But when it came to Mooney we were split. My wife (500 Mooney hours) said Lamborghini Our friend (100 Mooney hours) said Porsche- I nixed this because of the negative association with the ill fated Mooney with the porsche engine I said Jaguar- old type, maybe even convertible. Anybody have another opinion n the Mooney or another airplane. It was fun conversation! Quote
Pritch Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 Back in the day Cessna's were considered VW's of the sky. I thought my ole 63C was my Corvette. I now think of my 84k as an upgraded Corvette. Pritch Quote
MrRodgers Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 So, at supper tonight at what I consider the world's best fly in restaurant (Les relais, Louisville, KY) I had the conversation with some pilots about what model airplanes correspond to model cars. We agreed upon cessna 172 (Ford taurus) and even cessna 152 (ford escort). When it came to Baron's we said Range Rovers. But when it came to Mooney we were split. My wife (500 Mooney hours) said Lamborghini Our friend (100 Mooney hours) said Porsche- I nixed this because of the negative association with the ill fated Mooney with the porsche engine I said Jaguar- old type, maybe even convertible. Anybody have another opinion n the Mooney or another airplane. It was fun conversation! —————————————————-A car (PLANE) that seems sculpted by the wind. It is the purity of the styling elements that impresses – an aesthetic that is futuristic but, at the same time, a respectful yet un-nostalgic homage to the past.Ferrari Monza SP2Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote
jazztheglass Posted October 19, 2018 Author Report Posted October 19, 2018 Someone mentioned VW but it conjured up Nazi images Good call on the corvette- about as much room in the back seat! Quote
Hank Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) My Mooney and my convertible Jaguar both carry about the same cargo with me and my wife, and get about the same gas mileage. Even though the 4 cylinders in my Mooney have a larger displacement than the 12 in the car. The seating position is very similar, although the Jaguar has more shoulder room and larger doors. Edited October 19, 2018 by Hank Quote
carusoam Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 I have many hours in the Ford Escort and C152... The C152 was incredibly high powered compared to the ‘82 escort. With a much better power to weight ratio! To go anywhere, I needed a third person to split the gas bill... A few decades have passed... I’ve driven a Corvette... only two seats... The firebird... four seats but only 280hp... terrible hp to weight ratio... To match a 310hp, Standing Ovation... it needs at least four seats and have an extreme hp to weight ratio... and cruise in comfort for a long trip... Side Gs are nice but not critical to Mooney operations... I rode in a Porsche Cayenne and a Tesla Model S... they could be in the running... The Chevy Tahoe is similar to the 280hp O... Lots of power and seats and plenty o’stuff that fits in the back... -a- Quote
DonMuncy Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 25 minutes ago, jazztheglass said: So, at supper tonight at what I consider the world's best fly in restaurant (Les relais, Louisville, KY) I had the conversation with some pilots about what model airplanes correspond to model cars. We agreed upon cessna 172 (Ford taurus) and even cessna 152 (ford escort). When it came to Baron's we said Range Rovers. But when it came to Mooney we were split. My wife (500 Mooney hours) said Lamborghini Our friend (100 Mooney hours) said Porsche- I nixed this because of the negative association with the ill fated Mooney with the porsche engine I said Jaguar- old type, maybe even convertible. Anybody have another opinion n the Mooney or another airplane. It was fun conversation! No. Definitely a Lotus. Fast, efficient, light and sexy. 3 Quote
Mooney-Mark Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 I would compare my 68 M20C to a Porsche or BMW. Sexy, fast, sporty but a little cramped in the rear seats. My BMW costs about the same amount to maintain as my Mooney! 1 Quote
Hank Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, DonMuncy said: No. Definitely a Lotus. Fast, efficient, light and sexy. I knew I liked you, Don! Us LBC fans need to stick together, even if mine is not so little. Quote
DonMuncy Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hank said: I knew I liked you, Don! Us LBC fans need to stick together, even if mine is not so little. LBC? Quote
Hank Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, DonMuncy said: LBC? Little British Car. You have / like Lotus (me, too!) but I have a Jaguar--much larger area, but still only 46" from the ground to the top of the roof (when it's up). Quote
DonMuncy Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 Which Jag do you have. I have driven a XK150 and an XKE, but never owned one. I had MGTDs, TF, Austin Healey 100, Porsche 356B, Lotus Elans, Europa and Lancia Betas. Quote
Raptor05121 Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 I used to liken Mooney's to Porsche's. I've never been in a Porsche but ever since I got the Mustang they are very similar. Bend down to get in. The seat grips you. Low sitting. Feet straight out. Big metal moving bar in the middle when you wanna go fast. Zero legroom in the back. Looks fast just sitting still. And last but not least- everytime you stop, the guy in the Corolla (Cessna) stares at you in resentment 2 Quote
smccray Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 Perhaps I’m the only one here, but I think Mooneys are built to too high a standard to be compared to a British vehicle. The Porsche has always made the most sense to me. Seating position low to the floor and relatively narrow in the cabin. Built around business (going fast) and quality. 2 Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 I always tell people it is like sitting in a Volkswagen bug that goes really fast. Quote
BaldEagle Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 12 hours ago, DonMuncy said: No. Definitely a Lotus. Fast, efficient, light and sexy. Alas, I had to sell mine. The wife wouldn't let me have a Mooney and a Lotus. I always compared my Elise to a Vans RV. Sitting in either is like sitting in the bath with the water drained out. This was my 3rd (and last) Lotus. Like Mooney, Lotus was constantly looming from one financial disaster to another. 2 Quote
INA201 Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 It’s gotta be hand built which would make it most likely Italian. The Lamborghini is hand built, has been refined and improved through technology over the years, and is very expensive to buy new. Cirrus is more of a BMW imop. Quote
EricJ Posted October 19, 2018 Report Posted October 19, 2018 9 hours ago, smccray said: Perhaps I’m the only one here, but I think Mooneys are built to too high a standard to be compared to a British vehicle. The Porsche has always made the most sense to me. Seating position low to the floor and relatively narrow in the cabin. Built around business (going fast) and quality. I agree on both points. I call a Mooney the Porsche 911 of the Sky. Old school 911, air cooled boxer motor, tight handling, performs much better than you'd expect for the surprisingly low power it makes, pretty Spartan inside, not a lot of room to carry much crap, and very efficient at what it does and it does it well. 2 Quote
kmyfm20s Posted October 20, 2018 Report Posted October 20, 2018 I guess it depends on what year we are talking about. I’ve always compared most Mooney’s with steam gauges to a 911 Porsche. In the latter models with glass panels I’m leaning toward Tesla. Both have similar seating position, touch screen glass panels, autopilots, crazy acceleration, awesome lines, smooth ride, efficient and fast. 1 Quote
gsxrpilot Posted October 20, 2018 Report Posted October 20, 2018 I'm in the camp that likes to compare Mooneys to Porsches. An older air cooled, Porsche also has that really tight steering which is a lot like the heavy controls of my Mooney. I've always thought the Bonanza's like the F33A were more like American muscle cars. They're also fast, but big, heavy, and to hell with the gas milage. A Cherokee 6 or Lance is the Suburban. And the Cessna Cardinal with the massive doors is like a Chrysler Minivan. 2 Quote
DanM20C Posted October 20, 2018 Report Posted October 20, 2018 23 hours ago, DonMuncy said: I had MGTDs, TF, Austin Healey 100, Porsche 356B, Lotus Elans, Europa and Lancia Betas. Don, you have great taste in your modes transportation. I'm too young to have owned those cars but my late father's list is about identical to yours. As for Mooney/Cars,. I think any of the air cooled Porsche encompass what a Mooney is to me. With the exception of the 914, but that's really a VW. Cheers, Dan Quote
DonMuncy Posted October 20, 2018 Report Posted October 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, DanM20C said: I'm too young to have owned those cars but my late father's list is about identical to yours. You really know how to hurt a guy 1 1 Quote
AaronDC8402 Posted October 20, 2018 Report Posted October 20, 2018 I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion, but I've always considered the slower, older Mooneys (J's and back) most similar to a Miata with a rear seat. Since they have a rear seat, maybe compared better to a BRZ/FRS (they actually have boxer 4 cylinders up front too). The newer higher hp Mooney's I compare to a C63 AMG. 1 Quote
gsxrpilot Posted October 20, 2018 Report Posted October 20, 2018 2 hours ago, AaronDC8402 said: I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion, but I've always considered the slower, older Mooneys (J's and back) most similar to a Miata with a rear seat. Since they have a rear seat, maybe compared better to a BRZ/FRS (they actually have boxer 4 cylinders up front too). The newer higher hp Mooney's I compare to a C63 AMG. 2 Quote
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