Tony Starke Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) https://www.abc15.com/news/region-southeast-valley/gilbert/gilbert-dental-group-survives-second-plane-crash-in-14-months Edited September 21, 2018 by Tony Starke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 https://www.abc15.com/news/region-southeast-valley/gilbert/gilbert-dental-group-survives-second-plane-crash-in-14-months Wonder what the cause was for both. That is an incredibly to have two so close together. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlunseth Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 The first thing I would do is get a different mechanic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragedracer1977 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 Never heard of having the passengers hold the doors open as speed brakes. Interesting concept. Do you think the Mooney I could have my wife hold the door open for a super slip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 See what @chrixxer is thinking... There is no benefit to having your first engine out experience... You are just as likely to have another one the following day, if not, plan that way anyway... Best regards, -a- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 Meh. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Starke Posted September 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) I've watched the report twice and still havent seen a crash. Off field landings yes, crash no. Edited September 21, 2018 by Tony Starke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko182 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 59 minutes ago, Tony Starke said: I've watched the report twice and still havent seen a crash. Off field landings yes, crash no. welcome to "the news". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvesg Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 I recall duting flight training two decades ago my instructor showing me how to open the doors of a Cessna 150 to control yaw if the rudder cables would break. Yves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabremech Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 8 hours ago, jlunseth said: The first thing I would do is get a different mechanic. Really? Little is known and you assume it's a mechanics fault. Care to elaborate? Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steingar Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 Landing a little Aeronca a little hot on a really short field my buddy had me open the door to slow us down a bit.  Great field, fun airplane too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 35 minutes ago, steingar said: Landing a little Aeronca a little hot on a really short field my buddy had me open the door to slow us down a bit.  Great field, fun airplane too. But they opened the doors "to slow down" a gullwing Lancair! I bet those things grab an awful lot of air! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 hours ago, yvesg said: I recall duting flight training two decades ago my instructor showing me how to open the doors of a Cessna 150 to control yaw if the rudder cables would break. Yves I remember doing that!  I also remember flying an entire pattern, including takeoff and landing, without touching the yoke.  C150s are fun airplanes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steingar Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 hours ago, EricJ said: I remember doing that!  I also remember flying an entire pattern, including takeoff and landing, without touching the yoke.  C150s are fun airplanes. We didn't fly a whole pattern that way, but we did navigate in cruise flight by sticking our hands out the window.  Great little airplane. As far as the unfortunate fellow that started this thread, airplane engines don't fail like that.  There was something wrong with the way it was assembled or maintained, take your pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kortopates Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 We didn't fly a whole pattern that way, but we did navigate in cruise flight by sticking our hands out the window. Â Great little airplane. As far as the unfortunate fellow that started this thread, airplane engines don't fail like that. Â There was something wrong with the way it was assembled or maintained, take your pick. Or flown! Statistically greater chance of fuel exhaustion or starvation - given so little is known yet.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviatoreb Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 11:15 PM, carusoam said: See what @chrixxer is thinking... There is no benefit to having your first engine out experience... You are just as likely to have another one the following day, if not, plan that way anyway... Best regards, -a- That is a statement of statistical independence. However, there is a distinct possibility that these are not statistically independent events.  Such as, maybe something the pilot is doing is increasing the probability of an engine out, and so the first may change the probability of the second, either increase it - or even decrease it (eg learns to listen to the engine, not starve it for fuel, etc).  Or likewise something the mechanic is doing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooney-Mark Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 On September 20, 2018 at 10:56 PM, jlunseth said: The first thing I would do is get a different mechanic. Or maybe buy a twin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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