Jpflysdfw Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 I like the looks of the more moderns yokes and am curious about the logistics of a retrofit. Does anyone know whether the control wheel shafts on stock M20C, M20E and M20F will accept accept the more more yokes of the 201, Ovaitions, Acclaim’s (without changing out the shafts)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarmaster Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 @Marauder I like the looks of the more moderns yokes and am curious about the logistics of a retrofit. Does anyone know whether the control wheel shafts on stock M20C, M20E and M20F will accept accept the more more yokes of the 201, Ovaitions, Acclaim’s (without changing out the shafts)? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxrpilot Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 No, you have to change the shafts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy95W Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 18 minutes ago, gsxrpilot said: No, you have to change the shafts. And when you do, you no longer have to comply with the shaft AD. Worth the slight extra cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 I like the looks of the more moderns yokes and am curious about the logistics of a retrofit. Does anyone know whether the control wheel shafts on stock M20C, M20E and M20F will accept accept the more more yokes of the 201, Ovaitions, Acclaim’s (without changing out the shafts)? I did the conversion in 1998 when I had the STEC installed. It did require the shafts to be replaced. I bought the kit directly from Mooney. It contained a blueprint packet along with all of the hardware. And Andy is right, it does away with the AD for doing a dye test on the shafts. The 1975 models came with what I called the “Mongo” yokes. I really liked them for flying (really meaty and something you could get a nice grip on). They just weren’t easy to mount stuff on like the new style. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 See the pics in Jesse’s latest plane for sale, by Jessica... Expect a handful of parts that include the yokes, shafts, bearings.... Expect it to cost a lot more than it should... To get the parts, talk to Jerry... @acpartswhse.... Talk to your mechanic first... he has to be comfortable doing the work/signing the docs... It has been done before, legally... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooney-Mark Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 Mine were done before I purchased the airplane. I love them, as well as the 201 panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpflysdfw Posted August 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 6 hours ago, carusoam said: Expect it to cost a lot more than it should... Thanks @carusoam , I think the “more than it should...” goes with just about every upgrade/mod that I’ll consider! Thanks also to @Marauder for info and pic and @Andy95W regarding the dye-pen note, was not aware of that added benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpflysdfw Posted August 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mooney-Mark said: Mine were done before I purchased the airplane. I love them, as well as the 201 panel. Having the previous owner do it is absolutely the way to go, they do look good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Gravel Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Mooney-Mark said: Mine were done before I purchased the airplane. I love them, as well as the 201 panel. Clarence found a set of 231 yokes for me and is installing them as I write this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skates97 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Ned Gravel said: Clarence found a set of 231 yolks for me and is installing them as I write this. Is he scrambling them or will they be sunny side up? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Gravel Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, Skates97 said: Is he scrambling them or will they be sunny side up? Dang spell control!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxrpilot Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 I did the upgrade in my C a few years ago. I bought the yokes from someone here... but then discovered how expensive the shafts were. I didn't install the yokes for another year and a half. As I recall, they were about $700 each from Mooney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyNameIsNobody Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 Got my yokes and shafts as well as a set of seats with headrestsfor <300 off EBAY. An avionics salvage operation was parting out a 201 and “Nobody” bid. Boom! Winning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxrpilot Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, MyNameIsNobody said: Got my yokes and shafts as well as a set of seats with headrestsfor <300 off EBAY. An avionics salvage operation was parting out a 201 and “Nobody” bid. Boom! Winning. The shafts won't fit a C or an E, not sure about the F. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 The shafts won't fit a C or an E, not sure about the F. The yoke shaft blocks are different on the different yokes. This is the factory provided yoke blocks from 1998. Earlier J Mooneys had a different yoke shaft block. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 This is what one looks like from a 1979 J. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 Nice Pics of the heat sink farm growing behind the panel... Did everything fit, or did the yoke’s block get some modification? This is a great picture for anyone experiencing sticky yoke movement... an annual kind of event... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 Nice Pics of the heat sink farm growing behind the panel... Did everything fit, or did the yoke’s block get some modification? This is a great picture for anyone experiencing sticky yoke movement... an annual kind of event... Best regards, -a- You need to be diligent after any avionics work. Not only do you need to check to make sure there isn’t any interference right after avionics work, but also check to make sure nothing changes. After my first major avionics upgrade, my mechanic called at the annual and said that the rack for the newly installed avionics had dropped down onto the co-pilot shaft. I never felt anything but it sure woke me up to the potential issue. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danb Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 The blocks depicted in yellow in marauders photo are the type in my ‘05 Bravo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyNameIsNobody Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 7 hours ago, gsxrpilot said: The shafts won't fit a C or an E, not sure about the F. Huh, that’s funny because they have been in my plane working great for about 15 years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M20F-1968 Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 I used the yokes and shafts from an Ovation, but also had to change out the bellcrank. The aft connection to the bellcrank has bronze bearings that are not on the earlier versions. Of course to to this I had to pay for a DER to confirm the engineering and sign of the application from approved data. John Breda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyril Gibb Posted August 13, 2018 Report Share Posted August 13, 2018 On 8/12/2018 at 8:35 AM, Ned Gravel said: Clarence found a set of 231 yokes for me and is installing them as I write this. Just the yokes, or the shafts also based on the discussion following? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpflysdfw Posted August 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 On 8/12/2018 at 4:46 PM, MyNameIsNobody said: Huh, that’s funny because they have been in my plane working great for about 15 years... @MyNameIsNobody which year 201 shafts do you have and did you change the bellcranks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Gravel Posted August 14, 2018 Report Share Posted August 14, 2018 7 hours ago, Cyril Gibb said: Just the yokes, or the shafts also based on the discussion following? Not sure. Saw the yokes with shafts, but I have not seen the installation yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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