Gary0747 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 The last inch or so on locking the gear into the up position has always been a bit hard while putting the bar into the up socket. But it seems a little more difficult recently. Maybe it is just me getting weaker with age. I was wondering if my gear doors might be set too tight when closed but the manual is not very clear on how to check or measure how tight they should be in the up position. Any similar experiences or suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragedracer1977 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 Check the carpet around the base of the Johnson bar. That happened to me, turned out the carpet had slipped forward a bit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLCarter Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 If you suspect the doors, disconnect them and swing the gear while on jacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry 5TJ Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 There’s also a coil spring attached at the top of each main gear. If one of those breaks the gear becomes much heavier to raise. Easy to inspect. Hard to replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDPetersen Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 We are assuming the gear has been rigged and the down lock tensions are in spec. Mine were on the high side when I got first got mine. Last inch of travel very hard until adjusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skates97 Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 An easy thing to try is a little lube on the bar. When you get to the last little bit to put it in the lock block there is quite a bit of extra friction. On mine I had to twist a little while pushing up into the block to get it to lock into place. When I did the annual and it was up on blocks I unlocked the gear and with it about halfway lube the top of the shaft and work the handle up and down. You could also go up with a safety pilot and while cruising along at about 100 mph let the gear hang halfway down and lube the shaft. After I did this it was very easy to lock it into place. Edit: re-read that you are trying to lock in the up position. Check for carpet bunching as has been suggested and also the boot getting bunched up. Still worth trying a little lube on the shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy95W Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 I'll second what Richard, above, said. I was having almost the exact same symptoms as the OP- so much so that I was wondering if I was developing rotator cuff issues in my shoulder. I checked everything, to include carpeting, lube, and pre-loads. My problem turned out to be inadequate lube on the handle/slider itself that was making the whole extension process seem stiff. I lubed my slider with the plane up on jacks, but like Richard said, you can certainly do it in flight. Taking a safety pilot would be a good idea. I suggest silicone spray, readily available at hardware stores. Let us know what works for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Skates97 said: ...let the gear hang halfway down and lube the shaft. Make sure the safety pilot is a close friend. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvesg Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 My shaft seems due for some lube too...which part of it should be sprayed with silicone? Yves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skates97 Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 hours ago, yvesg said: My shaft seems due for some lube too...which part of it should be sprayed with silicone? Yves With the handle all the way up I just put some right below the handle and then slid it up and down to lube the inside of the handle. After that I wiped the area below the handle with a rag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964-M20E Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 I had a similar problem on my E many year ago working fine and then got harder to lock down. A the time I didn't have access to jacks but I did lube all the visible gear linkages I could get to and it did help. If you can jack it up drop the belly pan and lube all the mechanisms associated with the gear and see if it clears up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 14 hours ago, yvesg said: My shaft seems due for some lube too...which part of it should be sprayed with silicone? Yves Dirty old man! This is a family program. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilermonkey Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Our Johnson bar can get down or up with ease after being serviced. I hope I fare as well at 55.Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 This thread delivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellym Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 On 6/26/2018 at 10:25 AM, 1964-M20E said: I had a similar problem on my E many year ago working fine and then got harder to lock down. A the time I didn't have access to jacks but I did lube all the visible gear linkages I could get to and it did help. If you can jack it up drop the belly pan and lube all the mechanisms associated with the gear and see if it clears up. Remember, the landing gear AD requires annual lubing of all of the gear and all flight control system, or every 100 hours, whichever comes first. Not all mechanics realize how many places need lubing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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