INA201 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Thanks AGL! I’m thinking I will put the bandaids on before I start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGL Aviation Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Thanks AGL! I’m thinking I will put the bandaids on before I start. Run a magnet over the screen and reference Lycoming SI # 1492C Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 5 hours ago, HRM said: Excellent vids...I feel ready to do this. Some quick questions: The one R&R'd had wires for the 'pre-heater'. Do most of them not have that? Is it just a drilled 5/8" bolt? Does it need a new washer when it is replaced? If so, do you have a P/N? TIA, Harley The gasket in an MS35769-21, replace each time, split in the copper goes against the engine. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRM Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 hours ago, M20Doc said: The gasket in an MS35769-21, replace each time, split in the copper goes against the engine. Clarence Thanks! Many places to buy...Spruce, SkyGeek, etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DualRatedFlyer Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 hours ago, M20Doc said: The gasket in an MS35769-21, replace each time, split in the copper goes against the engine. Clarence Why? What is the purpose of the split? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRM Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, DualRatedFlyer said: Why? What is the purpose of the split? It's the 'crush' in 'crush gasket'. It seals the part against any irregularities between the sealing surfaces. Copper is soft, and the original hight-heat resistant material. Remember, 'one drop of oil can coat a plane'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DualRatedFlyer Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, HRM said: It's the 'crush' in 'crush gasket'. It seals the part against any irregularities between the sealing surfaces. Copper is soft, and the original hight-heat resistant material. Remember, 'one drop of oil can coat a plane'. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Tamara, great videos! I was getting ready to write a please post in YouTube message... for the iPad audience. But the videos you posted worked without any challenges... AGL A has skills! Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) Tamara, that’s an awesome video. Thank you for creating and posting it. I very much appreciate the effort. Edited June 6, 2018 by tony 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmevans Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 4:17 PM, N201MKTurbo said: I'm not saying that I'm going to stop pulling it at annual, but so far everyone has said that whenever they find stuff on the suction screen they also found stuff in the filter or pressure screen. So, I'll rephrase my question. Has anybody ever found something on the suction screen and didn't also find something in the filter? A few years back, I saw hardly any metal in the oil filter, but this is what I found in the screen... I was suffering from low oil pressure... So the answer is yes, it is possible. :) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLCarter Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, dmevans said: A few years back, I saw hardly any metal in the oil filter, but this is what I found in the screen... I was suffering from low oil pressure... So the answer is yes, it is possible. WOW, those are big enough to have serial numbers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_elliott Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 2 hours ago, dmevans said: A few years back, I saw hardly any metal in the oil filter, but this is what I found in the screen... I was suffering from low oil pressure... So the answer is yes, it is possible. How badly were the tappets spalled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N201MKTurbo Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 Thanks everybody for their input. This is valuable and useful information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradp Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 Don't know if this has been mentioned before but the hand safety screwdriver style twister would be perfectly suited for this task... https://www.yardstore.com/hand-tools/safety-wire-and-pliers/safety-wire-tools/safety-wire-twister-combo-includes-6-18-tool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N201MKTurbo Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bradp said: Don't know if this has been mentioned before but the hand safety screwdriver style twister would be perfectly suited for this task... https://www.yardstore.com/hand-tools/safety-wire-and-pliers/safety-wire-tools/safety-wire-twister-combo-includes-6-18-tool Fifth post in the thread. Edited June 10, 2018 by N201MKTurbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmevans Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, mike_elliott said: How badly were the tappets spalled? If I remember correctly, I think 2 tappets had been been cracked. My engine case was jacked up too. No matter how bloody my knuckles, I will be changing the screen at EVERY oil change. Lol. Here's a couple more photos... Edited June 10, 2018 by dmevans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmevans Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 6 hours ago, RLCarter said: WOW, those are big enough to have serial numbers Yeah, no kidding! When I saw all that metal, my heart dropped and my wallet went up in smoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 1 hour ago, dmevans said: If I remember correctly, I think 2 tappets had been been cracked. My engine case was jacked up too. No matter how bloody my knuckles, I will be changing the screen at EVERY oil change. Lol. Here's a couple more photos... Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMuncy Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 What did those turn out to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRM Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 5 hours ago, dmevans said: Here's a couple more photos... I GREATLY appreciate the close-up of the plug with the crush washer and the drilled head--I knew it looked like that, but didn't have a clear picture in my head until I saw your post. The Lyc manual implies that you only pull that screen if there is no spin-on filter. Your discovery suggests an annual inspection of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 Don, Dmevans mentioned two tappets... those are the things whose surfaces ride on the cam, that ultimately activate the valves via the push rods(?) They have a tendency to get corroded surfaces similar to the cam surface... the rough tappets running around on the rough cam lobe surface start cutting into each other... I have seen the rough surfaced tappets in pics around here... but hadn’t seen one broken like this that I remember... PP thoughts only, not a mechanic... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmevans Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 On 6/10/2018 at 10:48 PM, carusoam said: Don, Dmevans mentioned two tappets... those are the things whose surfaces ride on the cam, that ultimately activate the valves via the push rods(?) They have a tendency to get corroded surfaces similar to the cam surface... the rough tappets running around on the rough cam lobe surface start cutting into each other... I have seen the rough surfaced tappets in pics around here... but hadn’t seen one broken like this that I remember... PP thoughts only, not a mechanic... Best regards, -a- Here are a few more pics of the engine after I tore it down... enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 30 minutes ago, dmevans said: Here are a few more pics of the engine after I tore it down... enjoy! It shows how tough these engines can be, all of that damage and it was still running. I’m glad you caught it before it quit. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetdriven Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Looks like some of that shrapnel went through the accessory gears too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 That is spookier than a scary movie! Thanks for sharing the rest of the details, DM. Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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