201er Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 Planning to take our host for a scenic flight around Dallas. Any advice on the best way to go about it from Addison? Do they readily give Bravo clearances? Clockwise or counterclockwise? Which ring of Bravo to stay under? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccray Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, 201er said: Planning to take our host for a scenic flight around Dallas. Any advice on the best way to go about it from Addison? Do they readily give Bravo clearances? Clockwise or counterclockwise? Which ring of Bravo to stay under? Are you at ADS? I'm at the airport off of taxiway romeo right now. Edited March 3, 2018 by smccray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201er Posted March 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 In a few hours. I don’t want to keep you waiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccray Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 The air is packed today. Weather down here has been really bad lately (the same crap you flew threw on the way down) plus it's nice out so everyone is up flying. The airports are in south flow today which makes your chances better at getting a bravo clearance and flying over the top of love field at 2500 ft, but they probably won't let you get too close to downtown as it messes with traffic flow into love field. If you want to fly over Love, request it to ADS ground when requesting flight following and they'll do what they can. For a tour I would probably fly around the east side and just stay under the bravo shelf. There's a ton of training traffic between ADS and Mesquite airport (HQZ). Your best view of Dallas is probably staying close to the surface area boundary, but approach probably won't love you there. Traffic will expect you to exit the ADS airspace @ 2000 ft MSL. Fly the south side of the metroplex and you can get a good view of cowboys stadium and downtown fort worth. It should be a good flight. Depending on traffic, you may be able to work out flying over the top of DFW airport. When you're on the west side, request DFW over the top back into ADS (if you're flying back to ADS) at 3500 ft. I don't know a ton about ATC in general, but DFW is organized into quadrants. The north east quadrant is the busiest by far due to traffic into Love Field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201er Posted March 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 If I follow the 2500/3000ft circle, what is it about 20 mins around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccray Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 I would plan 40 min to an hour. I just looked at a recent log entry flying from Denton to Dallas executive (DTO to RBD) and flight time was 0.3 over the top of love field. a lot more spread out down here. DFW airport has the same land area as Manhattan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201er Posted March 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 Looks like we’ll be in Addison in about an hour. What time is sunset around here lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccray Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 6ish? Not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201er Posted March 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Sorry we missed you. We just landed and left. Was a wonderful flight but crazy busy. They must have landed at least 15 planes before they let me takeoff and I was number one. I ended up getting some good bravo transitions. One to the south across Love and another over Carrollton. Thanks for the advice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjknick@gmail.com Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Planning to take our host for a scenic flight around Dallas. Any advice on the best way to go about it from Addison? Do they readily give Bravo clearances? Clockwise or counterclockwise? Which ring of Bravo to stay under? Hope your ADS-B equipped help us see youSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Great ADSB post, Mike! I lived to the west of Addison, next to the Cowboy’s practice field... Worked next to Don M’s Redbird Airport.... That chart comes with a wave of old memories! Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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