Guest Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 The pump pictured is a Dukes, best overhaul price is Aero Motors LLC in Wisconsin. The Weldon is the even better version. However if your Dukes still makes good pressure it may not need an overhaul. Depending on which model of Dukes pump you have you may also have an Airmaze in line filter between the pump and the firewall in the same compartment as the pump. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pictreed Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 The fuel pump is making great pressure so it will stay. Starter is in and I’m working on the gasket. I’ll use sharpened cans of appropriate size to cut holes in rubber mat...wait for photos and it will make sence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Nice sharp detailed photo, PIC. Looking forward to the other photos... Looks like some timing lines marked on the starter gear. You can even see the wear on the gear's teeth from when the starter engages and pushes it around... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 The safety wire on the Inter-Av alternator mounting bolt is missing. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Doc, you are GOOD! I went back to review the pic, I can barely see an alternator, never mind the bolt and missing detail. Thanks for sharing your expertise! best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradp Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I can barely make out a bolt ... I bet Clarence has a 70” screen like Tom Cruise in minority report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pictreed Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 On 1/14/2018 at 10:22 PM, carusoam said: Nice sharp detailed photo, PIC. Looking forward to the other photos... Looks like some timing lines marked on the starter gear. You can even see the wear on the gear's teeth from when the starter engages and pushes it around... Best regards, -a- That mark on the flywheel is actually where I started counting teeth to make sure it was the right number...I think it was 149 teeth. At the time I verified it I knew but not sure now. On 1/14/2018 at 11:43 PM, M20Doc said: The safety wire on the Inter-Av alternator mounting bolt is missing. Clarence Yep, I started to remove the alternator to get the starter off. Yes, good eye. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pictreed Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 There are missing bolts...3 to be exact. You guys are good. Wait, are you guys talking about the one in the case? Is it missing or just not used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pictreed Posted January 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I’m ordering a new gascolator screen and gasket. The old one was pinched. We are pulling the injectors so I’ll make sure if anything got past it they are not clogged but if I’m not mistaken there is another filter past the auxiliary fuel pump. What micron is the screen? Looks like the gasket is 2”x1/8” Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarmaster Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I don’t believe there is an issue fitting the 149NL in, after all the original Prestolite was even bigger. Clarence Just installed a 149NL on my F. No clearance issues. Works great! Love the starter!Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarmaster Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just installed a 149NL on my F. No clearance issues. Works great! Love the starter!Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Here are a couple picsSent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 For the screen details it might be easy to call the good people at Lasar... Probably something they have a stack of for a Fin or a sawbuck... just a guess on my part. Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pictreed Posted January 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 That brings up another question. The boot from the power boost into the fuel injection body has at least 1 hole. Some guys are saying to patch it. Do you guys have any experience with that? LASAR was out but should have some more in for a few bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immelman Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Pictreed said: That brings up another question. The boot from the power boost into the fuel injection body has at least 1 hole. Some guys are saying to patch it. Do you guys have any experience with that? LASAR was out but should have some more in for a few bills. That boot is one of the weakest pieces of garbage in our airplanes... I am not an A&P or IA but "I have a friend" with a boot patched after holes developed in a new one quickly (use fuel tank sealant) and it has held up great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pictreed Posted January 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 I'm wondering if LASAR changed the material or if they just copied it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 if it has a mooney part number, it comes from Mooney... If it has a Lasar part number, it comes from Lasar... Asking Lasar directly has always gotten a direct reply with no surprises. Some personnel changes have occurred with the retirement and change of ownership. But no changes in quality of parts and services have been noted... PP thinking only, Not a mechanic... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 15 hours ago, Immelman said: That boot is one of the weakest pieces of garbage in our airplanes... I am not an A&P or IA but "I have a friend" with a boot patched after holes developed in a new one quickly (use fuel tank sealant) and it has held up great. While the intake boot is expensive and not of great quality, I would be worried about pieces of repair material being ingested by the engine or fuel servo. An engine failure would cost significantly more than a new boot. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pictreed Posted January 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Looks like a LASAR part? I'll order it tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immelman Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, M20Doc said: While the intake boot is expensive and not of great quality, I would be worried about pieces of repair material being ingested by the engine or fuel servo. An engine failure would cost significantly more than a new boot. Clarence I can understand that concern, but have you seen the inside of the boot when it begins to disintegrate? It flakes apart and those chunks of the smooth inner lining go straight into the servo and induction system. Edited January 23, 2018 by Immelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Pictreed said: Looks like a LASAR part? I'll order it tomorrow. That’s a Mooney part number on it. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Immelman said: I can understand that concern, but have you seen the inside of the boot when it begins to disintegrate? It flakes apart and those chunks of the smooth inner lining go straight into the servo and induction system. I‘I’ve seen the deterioration and have changed a few in my time. The engine can ingest small flakes, but a chunk of PRC which is plugging a hole? Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pictreed Posted January 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Hopefully the new boot will be in by Friday from LASAR with a new gascolator gasket and o-rings. Someone didn’t have the proper gasket and shaved this one down...pic. We found a cross threaded fuel injector line this weekend. So hopefully fixing that clears up some minor back firing issues when the engine is started back up after fueling or such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pictreed Posted January 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 I’m wondering if this was some of my starter issues? Solenoid wire.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 That's the before pic... Under all the oxidation is probably a nice copper colored shine waiting to come through! Got an after pic to go with that? Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pictreed Posted January 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 Not sure if this washer is suppose to be zinc that goes to the solenoid? So I’m putting a brass flat washer on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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