mooniac15u Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 12 hours ago, teejayevans said: Are the wing mounted gauges certified for use to fulfill Tomato Flames requirement? Check your POH. Mine contains this note: "An optional visual fuel quantity gauge may be installed on top of each tank and is to be use as a reference for refueling the tanks only." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanM20C Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 8 hours ago, mike_elliott said: just dont run one dry like you did the last time, Dan I had good altitude. Just need to be awake enough to switch to the other tank! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Check your POH. Mine contains this note: "An optional visual fuel quantity gauge may be installed on top of each tank and is to be use as a reference for refueling the tanks only." Good point, my 78 didn’t have them as an option but there may be a supplementary pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxrpilot Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 17 hours ago, DonMuncy said: If you don't mind paying $50 each, they are very easy to change. Who do I send the check to? $50 sounds cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMuncy Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 14 minutes ago, gsxrpilot said: Who do I send the check to? $50 sounds cheap. I was talking from memory. I got one from Air Parts in Varo Beach FL several years ago, for about $50. When you don't have anything to do for an hour or two, I can tell you about my adventure; finding Rochester sold them for about $5, but not being able to buy them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MV Aviation Posted December 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 28 replies and not a single one in regard to the actual question/request. Well done, gentlemen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 hour ago, MV Aviation said: 28 replies and not a single one in regard to the actual question/request. Well done, gentlemen! Welcome to Mooneyspace. We call it thread drift, I’m not sure of the German translation. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARZ Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 kann mich einfach nicht konzentrieren 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_elliott Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 9 hours ago, MV Aviation said: 28 replies and not a single one in regard to the actual question/request. Well done, gentlemen! humm...it seems it was answered properly by Paul K a few posts up. Why would anyone want to sell a product based on unsubstantiated data obtained from an internet request by a friend? While your request for information wasn't fulfilled , you have been given very valuable feedback as to the demand for such a marked up paint stick. Thread drift maybe, but perhaps you should have posted this in the vendor forum since these will be sold vs. donated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 10 hours ago, MV Aviation said: 28 replies and not a single one in regard to the actual question/request. Well done, gentlemen! If you manage to make one for an M20J I'd buy it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MV Aviation Posted December 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 14 hours ago, mike_elliott said: humm...it seems it was answered properly by Paul K a few posts up. Why would anyone want to sell a product based on unsubstantiated data obtained from an internet request by a friend? While your request for information wasn't fulfilled , you have been given very valuable feedback as to the demand for such a marked up paint stick. Thread drift maybe, but perhaps you should have posted this in the vendor forum since these will be sold vs. donated. The request was to contribute measurement data in order to compare it to my data and maybe to include more models. I don't see any. You? The info about the dipstick is only to provide you context. I know about the fact that every tank is a little different, as probably many here do. Therefore, it would be interesting to compare measurements of multiple aircraft, in order to estimate a mean error. And, I wasn't asking for opinions on the matter, nor am I trying to convince anyone to buy the sticks. As I stated in the original post, it's neither my business, nor is there any benefit for me. I'm just trying to gather data and help out a friend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
211º Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 Here is a 66E. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MV Aviation Posted December 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 On 19.12.2017 at 4:32 AM, 211º said: Here is a 66E. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro Thanks very much!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradp Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 Follow up question should be is this data point for 54 gal bladders or standard tanks.... there are many variations among mooney models over the years. @MV AviationIt’s a nice concept but your friend needs to do more due diligence than collecting some third party data and then selling laser etched sticks online. All things sold in aviation involve some risk of liability - at least in the US. Fuel miscalculation continues to be a top reason for GA accidents. I’d be very careful about underestimating how critical a paint stick can be in aviation... wrong year, model, tank size or tank material composition are important considerations. If he wants to do this the correct methodology would be to do a ton of research about the OEM mooney tanks, find a number of examples of that particular tank, drain a tank and fill, taking a number of measurements along the way. Of recruit some volunteers with a standard calculation methodology. Confirm accuracy and precision of measurements by more than one example of each “category” of tank. Then he can say that he has some validity to the product he’s offering - limited to model, year, SN and bladder vs wet wing, standard vs long range, etc. If all that leg work were done I’d be happy to purchase his dipsticks. If pilots know the calibration data were from a couple of random internet people with unknown methodology I’d consider them suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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