Shiny moose Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just remember that signing off an annual inspection mechanics are verifying that the airplane and its parts are in ad compliance from build date until that date annual is signed. just going back one year and seeing if any new or recurring AD's using past mechanics lists is not good enough, unless of course it was you who did last years inspection. Most mechanics that I know and myself, upon first annual of an aircraft that they have not seen before spend several non paid hours making sure some past mechanic did not miss an AD years ago, compile a new list ensuring compliance. More than once there has been a very surprised owner with an AD that was missed in the past years by mechanics only searching since last year and signing an annual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor05121 Posted November 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Right, I understand. I am just trying to do my due diligence in aiding him in the search. He's already told me he's going to do his own, so if I can shave 15 minutes here, 15 minutes there by pulling the easy ones first, hey, I'm all for helping. Thanks for the feedback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 The FAA could do maintainers a favour by making AD’s the responsibility of the owner, that’s how it is in Canada. The owner may delegate the task but not the ultimate responsibility for compliance. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetdriven Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Most owners I know cant keep track of the annual, much less AD's. Anyways, airworthiness is determined by the owner or operator, which includes AD's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, M20Doc said: The FAA could do maintainers a favour by making AD’s the responsibility of the owner, that’s how it is in Canada. The owner may delegate the task but not the ultimate responsibility for compliance. Clarence Question is, do you trust the owner to get it right? I just hope FAA can design their website well so that all you have to do is put in the year / model and it gives you the list of relevant AD just like that... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, jetdriven said: Most owners I know cant keep track of the annual, much less AD's. Anyways, airworthiness is determined by the owner or operator, which includes AD's. Agreed, however I can sign out an Annual, miss an AD and not face enforcement action because it’s the owners responsibility to ensure compliance. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetdriven Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Here there is an expensive subscription service to track AD's. otherwise you're just guessing. However, Ive found the Lycoming fuel injector line AD wasnt on there a month after it was published. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 4 hours ago, M20Doc said: Agreed, however I can sign out an Annual, miss an AD and not face enforcement action because it’s the owners responsibility to ensure compliance. Clarence I agree that it's owners' and oeprators' resonbility when it comes to airworthiness but I believe that when I take a plane to a shop for an annual, I expect the shop doing the AD search not me. For one, I have little or no training / experience in searching for ADs. Worse still, some owners may choose to neglect certain inconvenient ADs. Yes I know that, in the ideal world, all operators and owners should be diligently taking proactive steps to learn how to look up ADs and spend at least 3 or 4 hours before any annual to compile the list. IMHO, putting the onus on the owners to do AD searches is akin to asking your patients to come up with the diagnosis themselves. And can you imagine the public outcry if the car industry does the same? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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