xcrmckenna Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 I've read my poh four times specifically looking for the ceiling level of my plane. And I can't find it. Google says it's 18,800. I was wondering where it would be in the poh if not in General or Limitations. I bought a new altimeter for my adsb install and the 20k was cheaper than the 35k unit. I wanted to know if I should have bought the 35,000 foot unit for some reason? Sorry for needing more help.... Charles Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsengle Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Did you go with UAT or ES?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcrmckenna Posted July 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Did you go with UAT or ES?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm installing the AXP340 transponder. I believe it's ES. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsengle Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Odd, the TCDS says see POH for all Mooney models. The J POH I searched (PDF from online) defines the term and then doesn't seem to name the number....Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peevee Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, xcrmckenna said: I'm installing the AXP340 transponder. I believe it's ES. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcrmckenna Posted July 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Odd, the TCDS says see POH for all Mooney models. The J POH I searched (PDF from online) defines the term and then doesn't seem to name the number....Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah I've felt really dumb not being able to find it in the poh... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N201MKTurbo Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 The 20k altimeter will not stop spinning at 20 k, it is just not certified above that. With a NA 201 you will never know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 From the POH: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsengle Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 That explains why txt search missed it.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcrmckenna Posted July 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Thanks guys!!!!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N201MKTurbo Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) Ok, for bragging rights, What's the highest altitude anyone has taken a NA Mooney? I had my M20F up to 17500, it actually ran pretty good up there. Edited July 15, 2017 by N201MKTurbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcrmckenna Posted July 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Ok, for bragging rights, What's the highest altitude anyone has taken a NA Mooney? I had my M20F up to 17500, it actually ran pretty good up there. How long did it take? Coming home from Texas I was up at 14,500 over Arizona at 1pm and was still going through the worse turbulence I've ever gone through:) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N201MKTurbo Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 O Just now, xcrmckenna said: How long did it take? Coming home from Texas I was up at 14,500 over Arizona at 1pm and was still going through the worse turbulence I've ever gone through:) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Oh, gosh that was a long time ago and I started in Denver. It took 20 or 30 minutes. At the end I was using my sailplane training and milking it up. Plus I was crossing the Rockies, its hard to know how much is you and how much is the mountain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsengle Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 I've had an R to 17,5... didn't really wanna go any further was doing ok...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201er Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 1 minute ago, bluehighwayflyer said: I took our PowerFlowed C up to 17,500' once with two aboard and almost full 64 gallons of fuel. Summertime over WV. Would the powerflow make any particular difference in its ability to go so high? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 Excess HP is the explanation for climbing ability... removing the back pressure caused by the original exhaust system, and repalcing it with the PF with less back pressure, gives more usable HP... more hp, more climb capability... ------------------ M20C, solo, 14,500’ between OH and NJ... Heading East to catch a tail wind. Very little climb rate at that altitude. POH performance chart indicates climb rate at max Gross weight is 25 fpm @ 18k'... gear up, full rich, flaps 15°, full throttle, 2700 rpm... awefully rich, no? Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, bluehighwayflyer said: I took our PowerFlowed C up to 17,500' once with two aboard and almost full 64 gallons of fuel. Summertime over WV. I took my C to 15,000 over southern OH / western WV, flying really big racetracks one hot summer afternoon. Calculated a few days later that the DA was 18,800. Click below as slow, I sgep-climbed the last couple of thousand. Stopped because if we went Bovey 16,000 then Huntington Approach would have had to hand us off to Indy Center. Just had the stock exhaust . . . Did I say the climb was pretty slow? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 A friend of mine took his 180 HP RV6 to 26000,. I would think a light Mooney would best 20000' Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 20 minutes ago, M20Doc said: A friend of mine took his 180 HP RV6 to 26000,. I would think a light Mooney would best 20000' Clarence In a Canadian winter, sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxrpilot Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 I took my C to 16500 getting over some weather in West Texas. Now I fly a turbo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peevee Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 I took our rocket to 240? I'd go higher if it was certified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M20F Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 14 hours ago, M20Doc said: A friend of mine took his 180 HP RV6 to 26000,. I would think a light Mooney would best 20000' Clarence There is a YouTube of one of Bill Kershner's former students taking a 150 to 17.5 and then spinning it down so I wouldn't see much of an issue with a Mooney getting about FL20 but it would be a long ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M20F Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 12 hours ago, peevee said: I took our rocket to 240? I'd go higher if it was certified. If you had an Executive you could be at 250. Sadly you can't make use of the cigar lighter but the retractable step really shines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M016576 Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 14 hours ago, peevee said: I took our rocket to 240? I'd go higher if it was certified. Is there an altitude restriction on the rocket? there is no altitude restriction on the J or the Missile. you can fly as high as your NA motor can take you. Which is about 20,000' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peevee Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, M016576 said: Is there an altitude restriction on the rocket? there is no altitude restriction on the J or the Missile. you can fly as high as your NA motor can take you. Which is about 20,000' Only certified to 240 as from the factory. Dunno why other than it was too expensive to change as part of the stc. It'll climb about 1kfpm to 240 if it's not super hot out maybe a bit less like 600 to 800 if it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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