Guest Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 We continue to read sad tales of purchases gone wrong. I have a list which we use in the shop combined with years old experience, I will happily post the list I use tomorrow. I am asking you to help add additional items as necessary to improve it so that possibly others can avoid the pitfalls we read about. Any volunteers ? Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpaul Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 I think that is a great idea, especially coming from a respected A&P. With my very limited purchasing experience I will be of little help, but I will gladly same and utilize the list down the road if required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyTrekker Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 I really like the idea maintaining a list or knowledge base like you are describing. I read Mooneyspace threads for months before buying, and it was a huge help. Having a summary of most of that information in a single thread or document would be really nice for future buyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 A list of model specific AD's would be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Simon said: A list of model specific AD's would be helpful. From the FAA site: search by make http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAD.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Simon said: A list of model specific AD's would be helpful. You can get from the FAA.... I found the FAA list and the one from his service had some discrepancies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcrmckenna Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 I really like the idea maintaining a list or knowledge base like you are describing. I read Mooneyspace threads for months before buying, and it was a huge help. Having a summary of most of that information in a single thread or document would be really nice for future buyers. I agree, I couldn't imagine buying the first Mooney I looked at before I found Mooney Space..... I would probably of spent twice as much as the plane was worth. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryP1007 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 We continue to read sad tales of purchases gone wrong. I have a list which we use in the shop combined with years old experience, I will happily post the list I use tomorrow. I am asking you to help add additional items as necessary to improve it so that possibly others can avoid the pitfalls we read about. Any volunteers ? Clarence As I am soon to be in the market this would help me tremendously. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yooper Rocketman Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 12 hours ago, M20Doc said: We continue to read sad tales of purchases gone wrong. I have a list which we use in the shop combined with years old experience, I will happily post the list I use tomorrow. I am asking you to help add additional items as necessary to improve it so that possibly others can avoid the pitfalls we read about. Any volunteers ? Clarence I think this is a great idea but caution adding too many items to the list. Maybe it could be listed as "Doc's List" on the primary PPI Inspection List with additional items, suggested as there are contributions after you publish it, shown as addendum items. Just like an airplane checklist, if it get's too long, there's a tendency to gloss over the very items that are the serious ones the list was designed to avoid missing in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 As promised here is the list I use. Please feel free to add or modify if I missed anything important. Clarence Mooney Space PPI.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxrpilot Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 58 minutes ago, M20Doc said: Mooney Space PPI.doc This looks great! Thanks for posting. There are a few on this forum who should be downloading this right now, and ensuring any Mooney they plan to purchase has had this much inspection done prior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy95W Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Looks great. I would add: -corrosion check of stub spar, both behind the gear wells and under the baggage compartment -corrosion check of extruded angle aluminum longerons in the tail -check of the flap attachments for cracking and/or compliance with SB 20-217 (Vintage models only) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 I would add a Pre check section. Then follow through with the other sections Check wheel wells for corrosion pull the inboard rear inspection panel and check for corrosion Pull rear carpet check for corrosion Bore Scope the frame tubes under the windows - check for epoxy paint Check tanks for staining If it fails one of the precheck then why do all the other work. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB65E Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 I'll 2nd longeron inspection. Our longerons by the battery were heavily corroded due to acid spills during battery removal. It was all painted with fresh black paint. All after a fresh 9k MSC annual. I Ended up replacing the longeron. -Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964-M20E Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 thanks for posting very useful information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Amended list to reflect corrosion in battery box area, wing spar corrosion notes were already there. Clarence Mooney Space PPI.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonal Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 2 hours ago, M20Doc said: Amended list to reflect corrosion in battery box area, wing spar corrosion notes were already there. Clarence Mooney Space PPI.doc Did not look at amended list but thought you might have levels of corrosion found like surface light moderate or run for you life and don't look back. Otherwise very comprehensive list. Always appreciate your comments and contributions to this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted July 14, 2017 Report Share Posted July 14, 2017 Clarence, Are you able to upload that file to the 'download' area of this site? Not sure what topic it would best fit under, but I know that list will be very helpful to the unknowing... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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