aerobat95 Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Hey guys its been awhile....so question for you....I am not able to do this myself as a result of me not being close to my airplane at the moment but I need a new battery....I was quoted $466.16....is it me or does this seem high? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB65E Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 I would say if a battery cost over $350 (309 plus shipping from ACS) which I'm pretty sure the do now days. Another $100, to remove the old one, dispose of, install new, and a log entrie. Seams fair to me. -Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry 5TJ Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Seems about right for a new battery and 2 hours labor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctsurf Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Battery replacement, if I remember correctly, is owner approved maintenance. Order it from Spruce, put it in, simple simon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctsurf Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 In that case, I want to thank him for his service. I hope we can save him some cash. If I might translate my post, yes, it seems high to me. It is owner approved maintenance, in the case of an m20f, it requires removal of one of the easiest panels and the battery box cover. Unless the replacement requires tracing of an electrical gremlin, and is not a standard maintenance, it seems high to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DXB Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 As a mechanically inexperienced owner, it took me about 30 minute to very cautiously replace my battery. I imagine it's a trivial job for an A&P. I think the Concorde battery itself cost me around 280 from Spruce plus shipping. If you give the shop some markup on the battery and allow them to round up to a minimum one hour of labor, then the price seems not cheap but not shameless gouging either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL757 Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 To the OP, the price is in-line with many shops I know who have done this work. To replace either of my two Ovation batteries, I'm looking at ~$564 for each battery, and I do the work myself. Assume another couple hundred max for a shop to do the work, and you're up in the $700-$800 range...so again, $466 is more than reasonable for your "F". Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooneymite Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 If you're not going to fly the plane for awhile, why not wait and have it installed closer to when you'll be flying regularly. Disuse is not kind to batteries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orionflt Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Where is your plane at? Maybe some one can help you out if you get the battery. Brian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSMooniac Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 If you're still close to Wichita, Airparts has Concorde batteries in stock at great prices, no sales tax. Sent from my LG-LS997 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 For those who believe that the charge is too high and you were the shop owner who had the battery in stock, what do you feel is a fair price for this job? Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffy Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 Lets see, If not in stock get on phone and order it. It arrives you check it in against the order Then you unpack it and fill the cells and wait a while Then you charge it as per the ICA (right? :-) Then you open the airplane and remove the old one Install the new one and check the installation Close the airplane back up Fill out the log book or page insert Make up the customer's bill Do something with the old one Now wait to be paid. Enough for an extra $100 on top of battery price? Just askin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) 1) First decide whether the Brand matters. 2) Then decide whether the wet cell or sealed battery is good for you. 3) the price is all battery + an hour install 4) if you have a long body... the price is all batteries + an hour install 5) sitting for a month is tough on batteries. A good high tech battery minder is recommended... +1 for Concorde, Sealed, and the quality of Cliffy or Clarence to make it happen properly. Best regards, -a- Edited May 3, 2017 by carusoam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB65E Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 3 hours ago, cliffy said: Lets see, If not in stock get on phone and order it. It arrives you check it in against the order Then you unpack it and fill the cells and wait a while Then you charge it as per the ICA (right? :-) Then you open the airplane and remove the old one Install the new one and check the installation Close the airplane back up Fill out the log book or page insert Make up the customer's bill Do something with the old one Now wait to be paid. Enough for an extra $100 on top of battery price? Just askin That's just mentioning known items! Lol -Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy95W Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 10 hours ago, Mooneymite said: If you're not going to fly the plane for awhile, why not wait and have it installed closer to when you'll be flying regularly. Disuse is not kind to batteries. What Gus said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcrmckenna Posted May 3, 2017 Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 If the mechanic is going to go to your plane with the battery then I'm sure his time is worth that price. If you are ordering the battery yourself and having them install it I would order from http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/batteries/concorde-rg-batteries.html they are cheaper that spruce and have free ground shipping. Not paying for shipping can help offset the mechanic rate. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBill Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 A/S sells rg35 for @289, no more than 1 hr to install (100) so 400 would be about right. plus shop gets 15 percent off at A/S, Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 1 hour ago, DrBill said: A/S sells rg35 for @289, no more than 1 hr to install (100) so 400 would be about right. plus shop gets 15 percent off at A/S, Bill Spruce doesn't give anyone 15% and they sure don't give free shipping in Canada. They're closer to the one price for everyone, just like Home Depot. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Shops get a whopping 2% off of Concorde batteries plus free shipping through Aircraft Spruce. So naturally they have to mark them up if they are going to stock them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M016576 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I think the price is about right... but... the battery is just so easy to replace, might as well wait until the next time you go flying and roll it in to your preflight. on a F/J, it's no more difficult than any car battery. It's a bit more complicated on the missile/rocket, but only because sliding a battery box into the tail cone without hitting/damaging a static line is a bit cumbersome. I'd say about 15 minutes of work, maybe, on a E/F/J. About 45 minutes on a missile, rocket. Not sure how the long bodies are set up- if they have their batteries buried in the back like the missile/rocket or right next to the access panel like the earlier models? again, I think if you're going to pay the shop to do it, that's a fair price- but I'd consider at least giving it a try yourself if you're up to saving a hundred bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyNameIsNobody Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I really think the appropriate time is before the job is done. Simply ask: "How much for ___ Battery? What is installation charge for labor/logbook? What is your rate for labor___Thank you. When can you install? Thank you. I would like you to do that. Send bill to____. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetdriven Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 4:19 PM, M20Doc said: For those who believe that the charge is too high and you were the shop owner who had the battery in stock, what do you feel is a fair price for this job? Clarence Do we know the shop is stocking the battery? I don't see paying 20-30% markup for them to order the battery from Aviall, which is even more expensive than spruce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerry Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Price must of shot up since I bought my Concorde. I don't remember spending $300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBill Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 My a & I got 15% off parts for my annual last month. don't know it extends to batteries. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madjano Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I know i paid over $300 for the Concorde. Think it was from Chief. Put it in and logged it myself. But who are we to knock a shop for charging a $100 or so for install. There is more than just shop's labor in an hourly rate. Beauty of the free market, you could always get another quote... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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