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1 hour ago, 1964-M20E said:

Heck it's only money finance it and then it would be yours in 30 years or so 10 years sooner than waiting for it to depreciate and you get to enjoy it in the mean time.:blink:

 

 

Yeah it's only 3/4 of a mil or more.

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11 minutes ago, Piloto said:

Premier Aircraft at KFXE have them for sale at a mere $769,000 with full fuel and a Mooney hat.

https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/1419467/2017-mooney-acclaim-ultra

 

The airplane id free you just need to pay for the full tanks of fuel and the hat.:D

 

 

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29 minutes ago, StevenL757 said:

Considering price point, one could say the same about a new Cirrus.  So, the real question is...

What makes anyone want to spend ~$700k on their airplane instead of our amazing aircraft?  A d--- parachute?

-Useful load. 200lb goes a long way. Cirrus is a proper 3 seater with full fuel, Mooney Acclaim is a single seater (equipped with TKS and A/C, SR22T gives you 1100b vs 900b in an Acclaim).

-Cabin comfort, wider, taller, bigger windows, A/C and heat that just work. It feels just like your luxury car.

-Well, there is that parachute, which turns it into a useful business tool as opposed a fun daytime VFR machine. In my "old" age, I refuse to fly singles at night or over low IFR. This severely limits usefulness of a single other than SR22 to me for business travel during winter months. If I'm spending $700K, I am not driving to Fargo ever again. 

-Properly designed 26G seats and 4 point restrain system. What good is the steel cage if your head ends up in the panel. Cirrus cabin is just as good/solid in a crash as the steel cage. Watch the KAPA rotor wash crash video. I would not want to be a M20 or for that matter any other GA aircraft, other than maybe Diamond, if that was to happen to me.

-Considerably better avionics, Perspective is so much better than the stock G1000.

-ESP to keep me from killing myself on base to final turn.

-Automatic descent mode to keep me from killing myself when the kid folds the oxygen tube in half just to see what happens.

Granted, Cirrus is 15knots slower at same fuel flow (it's 20 knots slower, but only against a naked Acclaim without TKS). TKS does not slow Cirrus down as it does not change the profile of wing being the wing is fabricated to directly accept the panel as a leading edge. TKSed Acclaim will hit 215knots at FL180 on 16gph, TKSed SR22T will do 200knots on same fuel flow.

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4 minutes ago, peevee said:

Honestly, buying new I'd buy the 22t with fiki. Sorry.

If I was being purely practical, I'd agree with you... except that if I really was practical, I wouldn't fly at all.  I fly because it's fun, it's cool, it makes me happy and I can afford it. Therefore I'd never own a Cirrus unless they start coming with retractable gear. There is a cool factor that comes with retracts and tailwheels, that just can't be matched by a fixed gear tricycle.

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Like my wife says "$769,000 and not a single bathroom, no way José" "For that money you can get a 5 bed and 5 baths house with pool on the beach" "Or 100 trips to Europe in first class with hotel and you would not need to worry about tie downs". I guess she does not see the advantage of dual doors, women!

José  

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Just now, Piloto said:

Like my wife says "$769,000 and not a single bathroom, no way José" "For that money you can get a 5 bed and 5 baths house with pool on the beach" "Or 100 trips to Europe in first class with hotel and you would not need to worry about tie downs". I guess she does not see the advantage of dual doors, women!

José  

People look at my "OLD" Mooney for so much money - and anything over 100k sounds like a lotta money to people around here - and i know they are saying, "for that kinda money I could buy 15 Datsun B210's, and old ford F10 pickup, and several snow mobiles, a jet ski, and a bunch of fishing rods..and money left over for 8 pizzas at pizza hut".

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