BigTex Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Guys - On a flight today I started receiving the following message " Not receiving 232 input data on channel #2" on my Garmin 430W. Any thoughts on what might be causing this error/message? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar Avalle Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Guys - On a flight today I started receiving the following message " Not receiving 232 input data on channel #2" on my Garmin 430W. Any thoughts on what might be causing this error/message? Is there anything connect d to your 430? JPI, stormscope? It means that it is not receiving information that it is supposed to receive form one external box.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTex Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I have a STec 50 with GPSS and a GTX330ES connected to my 430 but both appear to be working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnoe Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Pull the individual breakers on the stec and gtx while everything is on and see if an error message pops up for each. You should get one each time a connected unit is powered down. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piloto Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Try contact cleaner. José Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradp Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 And that doesn't work look at the wiring diagram and trace the pin. Make sure it's seated not damaged. Once it goes into the connector and harness it may be darn near impossible to trace. You may be able to rule in out which device is not providing data. How is altitude sent to your GPS? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR75 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Go into the Setup and check what RS232 port #2 is configured it may be fuel flow or TIS-a traffic or altitude encoding .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Sometimes the boot up on the 430 and the boot up on whatever device is connected don't sync. Just restart both and it'll probably go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTex Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Go into the Setup and check what RS232 port #2 is configured it may be fuel flow or TIS-a traffic or altitude encoding .... Looking at the configuration screen, it looks like it might be the fuel transducer might be acting up.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwing Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 hour ago, BigTex said: Looking at the configuration screen, it looks like it might be the fuel transducer might be acting up. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Config setup is incorrect...ch 2 should be input =shadin fuel output =aviation ...Adsb out should be on another ch altogether say ch 3 or 4....may need to be rewired for max function Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTex Posted January 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Config setup is incorrect...ch 2 should be input =shadin fuel output =aviation ...Adsb out should be on another ch altogether say ch 3 or 4....may need to be rewired for max function Interesting. This has been wired this way for several years and this error just now started occurring every so often. I'll take it to my avionics shop to see what they say.Thanks for the guidance .Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwing Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 You hAve a shadin miniflow or fuel flow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwing Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 I mean since you have to 3 empty ports (channels)I think it would work better splitting the two devices also what make model Adsb transponder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTex Posted January 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 I mean since you have to 3 empty ports (channels)I think it would work better splitting the two devices also what make model Adsb transponder? I have a GTX330ES. I'll need to check what fuel flow is installed. It was in the plane prior to my purchase.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwing Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Oh boy...so you have no input at all from the gtx330es? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTex Posted January 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Oh boy...so you have no input at all from the gtx330es? Its configured using the 429 interface. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwing Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Sure is!Ok than its just the Shadin..my config is 2 way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR75 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) reminds me of a previous thread on avionics intalls . I do believe that avionics install have become easier from a hardware standpoint ( what used to require several wire now just requires 1 or 2 via an RS 232 or ARINC 429) however, settings have become more subtle Edited January 30, 2017 by OR75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwing Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 18 hours ago, OR75 said: reminds me of a previous thread on avionics intalls . I do believe that avionics install have become easier from a hardware standpoint ( what used to require several wire now just requires 1 or 2 via an RS 232 or ARINC 429) however, settings have become more subtle Yeah but you still have to run the wires and the pins can be really hard to get to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLev Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Had this come up the other day on a flight, but it was because we didn't have the fuel flow turned on, so as others have said...make sure all the units connected to the 430w are receiving proper power! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR75 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, thinwing said: Yeah but you still have to run the wires and the pins can be really hard to get to I won't disagree. That's why a good crimping tool is a must have And you would not believe how many pounds of wire I removed from the plane when un-installing and ADF and a remote DME. Most avionics shops just leave the old wires there and terminate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwing Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, OR75 said: I won't disagree. That's why a good crimping tool is a must have And you would not believe how many pounds of wire I removed from the plane when un-installing and ADF and a remote DME. Most avionics shops just leave the old wires there and terminate them. That's really crude work leaving old wires...no I ment the back side of Garmin trays where the pins insert have those damned aluminum guards the prevent easy access to pin blocks after initial install Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR75 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 hour ago, thinwing said: That's really crude work leaving old wires...no I ment the back side of Garmin trays where the pins insert have those damned aluminum guards the prevent easy access to pin blocks after initial install You would be surprised how many shops do not want to remove old wires. On connectors, I know what you mean. The current connectors are very cramped, especially since many wire require shielding. The worse I have seen are probably audio panels'. GMA 340 or PS8000 where almost all pins are used. I wish those manufacturers did build an extension for the connectors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwing Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 What an engineering concept...intelligent design using connectors available easily after initial install..where access is challenged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, OR75 said: You would be surprised how many shops do not want to remove old wires. On connectors, I know what you mean. The current connectors are very cramped, especially since many wire require shielding. The worse I have seen are probably audio panels'. GMA 340 or PS8000 where almost all pins are used. I wish those manufacturers did build an extension for the connectors The cleanest install on a PS Engineering Audio Panel is to have them make the harness. http://www.ps-engineering.com/docs/PMA8000B_Harn.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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