Little Dipper Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 I am looking at upgrading my taxi and landing lights for my 1995 Ovation. I am looking at the 50 watt XV-36-SL and XV-36-ST from http://www.xevision.com/hid_aircraft_kits.html#conversionkits. Does anyone have any experience with these lamps or have any better ideas? I thought I might have wanted to go with LEDs but I want a bright white light not blue. I am relatively new to this list and appreciate any advice. Norm N995K 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Norm, While hunting around MS for similar experience, you may encounter some experience from other Mooney pilots... short body and mid body pilots... There isn't much difference from the wing mounted taxi and/or landing lights for the O... we just get two of each... Lights come in two sizes. Small ones fit in the wings, large ones fit in the nose... Then there are the lights that come from a tractor.... same as the aviation version, but without the expensive paperwork... Best regards, -a- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Drop the word Xevision in the search box, click all forums... https://mooneyspace.com/search/ lots of ideas come up... Best regards, -a- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxMike Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Call Dan at XeVision. He has a Mooney drawing showing the installation which represents approved data. ( I think). This would be the basis for an approval of a 337. You would have to install the way the drawing is done but this should not be a problem. I would suggest you get the drawing write up a 337 and take it to your FAA inspector and get it approved before you buy the lights. The FAA decided that since one company got an STC approval they should stonewall all the field approvals to benefit the company who bowed to the FAA and went through the process. I am at the starting point of a field approval but Christmas got in the way. Let us know how you are progressing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Modern LEDs are white, compare to incandescents that are yellowish. I don't notice any blue in my Whelens. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dipper Posted December 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 39 minutes ago, teejayevans said: Modern LEDs are white, compare to incandescents that are yellowish. I don't notice any blue in my Whelens. The LEDs my A&P showed me on a twin at his shop had a bluish tint to them. That's not what I am looking for. I have HID lamps on my Corvette that are bright white but are completely illegal. They turn night into day and burn the retinas out of anyone coming the other way. That's kind of what I am looking for. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dipper Posted December 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 26 minutes ago, FoxMike said: Call Dan at XeVision. He has a Mooney drawing showing the installation which represents approved data. ( I think). This would be the basis for an approval of a 337. You would have to install the way the drawing is done but this should not be a problem. I would suggest you get the drawing write up a 337 and take it to your FAA inspector and get it approved before you buy the lights. The FAA decided that since one company got an STC approval they should stonewall all the field approvals to benefit the company who bowed to the FAA and went through the process. I am at the starting point of a field approval but Christmas got in the way. Let us know how you are progressing. I sent an e-mail to them inquiring about the 75 watt "special request only" I'm interested in what they say. I like your idea about getting a 337 approved. My airport has lots of deer that I have dodged in the past. I don't know why the FAA would object to improving safety by improving forward vision on landing? But I quess I will find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 The LEDs my A&P showed me on a twin at his shop had a bluish tint to them. That's not what I am looking for. I have HID lamps on my Corvette that are bright white bue completely illegal. They turn night into day and burn the retinas out of anyone comming the other way. Thats kind of what I am looking for. Thanks I believe you have the par 36 wing mounted lights, a pair of landing and a pair of taxi. If you end up going the HID route for the landing lights, I would consider Whelens landing lights for the taxi lights, this would give you a low amperage option that doesn't destroy others retinas. Im not a big fan of the taxi lights, they have a wide swath of light but it doesn't throw a lot of light in front of you and would go with the landing lights instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dipper Posted December 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, teejayevans said: I believe you have the par 36 wing mounted lights, a pair of landing and a pair of taxi. If you end up going the HID route for the landing lights, I would consider Whelens landing lights for the taxi lights, this would give you a low amperage option that doesn't destroy others retinas. Im not a big fan of the taxi lights, they have a wide swath of light but it doesn't throw a lot of light in front of you and would go with the landing lights instead. That is a great idea. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yooper Rocketman Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Here's my recent upgrade from HID to LED on the Lancair. These ARE a certified light, even though installed in an experimental. Absolutely no comparison!! HID on left, LED on right Tom 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dipper Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 31 minutes ago, Yooper Rocketman said: Here's my recent upgrade from HID to LED on the Lancair. These ARE a certified light, even though installed in an experimental. Absolutely no comparison!! HID on left, LED on right Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dipper Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Whose make of led is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yooper Rocketman Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) AeroLED's Edited December 31, 2016 by Yooper Rocketman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Is it PAR36? How much $? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yooper Rocketman Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 9 hours ago, Yooper Rocketman said: Aveo My mistake. They are AeroLED's Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Which model AeroLED? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M20F-1968 Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 I installed HID lights for both landing and Taxi when I did my rebuild. (I have an F model, but have the Ovation lights mounted in the wings, one taxi, one landing on each side). They are great. I would think any HID brand would work, just need approved 337. Any STC by the manufacturer for a certified airplane should work for approved data. John Breda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yooper Rocketman Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 On 1/3/2017 at 5:27 PM, LANCECASPER said: Which model AeroLED? Sorry. I am in Florida until Saturday. I will check when I get back. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dipper Posted January 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 I talked with the FISDO and my A&P and ended up ordering the 50 watt XV-36-SL. Dan B at XeVision was very nice to work with. They have already shipped and are scheduled to be delivered next Wednesday. I'll send pictures after they are installed. I would like to thank everyone for their suggestions and advice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dipper Posted January 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Lights arrived today from XeVision. They look much better than depleted on their web site. The only bad thing is that my A&P is backed up and it will take him two weeks or so to get a chance to install them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dipper Posted February 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Teledyne Alphabeam Taxi Lights arrived this afternoon. I'll have them installed next week. Thanks everyone for their advice on the landing and taxi lamps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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