ohdub Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 My glare shield lights don't work and I discovered why the other night, there are no bulbs in any of the sockets. So the question is, what bulbs do I use? Aircraft Spruce has a long list of bulbs and I don't know which to get. I have a '90 J. Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 hours ago, ohdub said: My glare shield lights don't work and I discovered why the other night, there are no bulbs in any of the sockets. So the question is, what bulbs do I use? Aircraft Spruce has a long list of bulbs and I don't know which to get. I have a '90 J. Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me I would pull one out and look it to be sure. My plane has 330s in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohdub Posted November 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 17 minutes ago, Marauder said: I would pull one out and look it to be sure. My plane has 330s in it. I would pull one to find out, but there are none. Perhaps I'll get a 330 and see if it fits/works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooniac15u Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Just now, ohdub said: I would pull one to find out, but there are none. Perhaps I'll get a 330 and see if it fits/works. The parts catalog says 330. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWinter Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 See what bulb you need. I've got a whole baggy full of bulbs that were removed from my panel upgrade. Kick a little postage at me and I'll send you several of whatever you need. They are just in my "bag of whatever" leftovers. -Tom 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freff Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 along with the bulbs, i lost some of the metal things that hold them in. Does anyone know the part # for the part that screws in to hold the bulb? I couldn't pick it out of the parts manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew_Wagner Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 The glare shield light 5A fuse keeps blowing. Any ideas? I have traced the wire all the way and all appears OK, nothing gets hot. I'm stumped...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMuncy Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 Have you carefully checked the bulb sockets. You might try removing all the bulbs and seeing if it still blows, and if not, replacing them one at a time to see which socket. I hope these are cheap fuses. Or you can use an ohmmeter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy95W Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 45 minutes ago, Drew_Wagner said: The glare shield light 5A fuse keeps blowing. Any ideas? I have traced the wire all the way and all appears OK, nothing gets hot. I'm stumped... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This is my prediction for why the OP (ohdub) is missing all of his light bulbs, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew_Wagner Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 I have 20 of them and they are under $1 each. Will try and report back.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 Expect the bulbs are missing for a reason. Know that you can fix it back to normal with the right parts and basic skills... don't forget to involve your mechanic for proper documentation if necessary. Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 Transistors, PWM, shorts oh my. You are probably going to need this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Hyett6420 said: Can you not just ignore them and put in an LED strip instead? Warm light rather than blue light obviously. The circuit has the Transistors (how the dimming occurs)which have probably failed. So need to replace the the transistors with PWM module. LED need a PWM module to dim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yetti Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 3 things to help you think based on your model number - If someone could find these for the later model F that would be nice. http://mooney.free.fr/Manuels M20J/M20J/Mooney Service Manuel M20J Vol. 2 of 2.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWinter Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 I installed one of these..works great and has a dimmer/on/off built in. Runs low volt off USB port. Tried it the other night..worked excellent. Adhere to bottom lip of glareshield. White/ red or green. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 ^^^^ Hey, that looks great! What is it? LEDs on a reel, cut to length and plug in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWinter Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 56 minutes ago, Hank said: ^^^^ Hey, that looks great! What is it? LEDs on a reel, cut to length and plug in? Yep..Just cut to length. I think I cut maybe a foot off. I used it a few nights ago and it worked excellent. The USB and the ability to dim is the beauty of it. I'm going to try and fly later today or evening..I'll try to get a picture of it in action. Strip Length: 51.2 inches USB Cord Length 19.6 inches Power DC5V USB Powered Adhesive: 3M Adhesive Backing Waterproof: IP65 Color: White LED Quantity: 78 -Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohdub Posted November 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 I've emailed the previous owner to find out if there is a reason there are no bulbs... as people have mentioned, there may be a reason. Where would I find that LED strip that Tom posted? That looks like a possible easy solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy95W Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 I think I may have found it: https://www.amazon.com/Multi-colored-Lighting-Background-Waterproof-Cuttable/dp/B01A5DDDE6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1479410850&sr=8-2&keywords=led+strip+lights+usb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWinter Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 23 minutes ago, N1395W said: I think I may have found it: https://www.amazon.com/Multi-colored-Lighting-Background-Waterproof-Cuttable/dp/B01A5DDDE6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1479410850&sr=8-2&keywords=led+strip+lights+usb Close.. Here you go. https://www.amazon.com/Sewell-LightFrame-Dimmer-Powered-Lighting/dp/B01GP0N8MU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479415763&sr=8-1&keywords=sewell+lightframe Actually I got mine off Fleabay. Here they are on Amazon.. Mine are LED white. -Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTK Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, TWinter said: Close.. Here you go. https://www.amazon.com/Sewell-LightFrame-Dimmer-Powered-Lighting/dp/B01GP0N8MU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479415763&sr=8-1&keywords=sewell+lightframe Actually I got mine off Fleabay. Here they are on Amazon.. Mine are LED white. -Tom How do you power it Tom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWinter Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 20 minutes ago, PTK said: How do you power it Tom? When I had the panel redone I had the MidContinent MD93 Digital Clock/USB Charger unit installed on the far left of the panel. In my situation it worked out well just plugging the LED USB into the USB on the clock. Output V of the USB is 5v per USB. The power-cord with the dimmer is plenty long enough to use the regular cig lighter with USB adapter port. It would still make for a very clean install. -Tom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohdub Posted November 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Thanks for everyone's help! The bulb is the GE 330, I got one and tried it in a few different sockets but it doesn't work, so there is a bigger problem. Perhaps I'll wait for the annual and let Clarence fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eraaen Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Had maybe the same trouble with my K Model.. 330's it is.. that's the easy part. It's the little screw-in holder that I'm missing two of. See pic below. Can't find a part number, Can't find anything.. I've thought about the LED trick.. But I use my Cig Adaptor to keep my IPAD and Garmin Glow charged. For the time being, I've just moved the lights to over the things I would like to be illuminated. Dark over some of the duplicate gauges I never use. If anyone knows the part number, or a source for that thing I'd love to know about it. I've tried everything I can think of, even Mooney.. I "think" they are confusing the only part number that shows up on the drawings as the actual molded in socket and not this screw in retainer thingy.. Unless it is all sold as a unit. I have given up for now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TargetDriver Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 I have noticed a couple of mine are out too ('80 K model) but haven't given it much attention yet. Any thoughts if there would be any official reason someone couldn't just have a batch of those ran? Haven't seen where there's any part number directly on the shroud (metal part shown). I happen to know someone with a screw machine that could spit those out but we'd probably have to order hundreds to make it worth while. Tolerances would be held to +/- .0015. Just a thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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