mike_elliott Posted October 21, 2016 Report Posted October 21, 2016 I just received an email saying the Mooney Summit will be on CAMI's 2018 Schedule to have their remote PROTE reduced Oxygen training in Panama City Beach! I have pushed hard for this with everyone including Tindal AFB, AOPA, the FAA and congress! Those of us who fly at or above 9K really need this training as hypoxia is such an insidious killer. We had to reach out to one Mooney widow already because of hypoxia. Now we have the ability to educate ourselves on how we individually re-act. I know, those of you who attended the last Mooney Summit a few weeks ago will recall Major Mari Metzler (Mars) telling of how alcohol brings out some of the same "tells", but we feel a more professional approach is in order vs. just having more beer and wine at the reception Thanks George, David, Mars, Ron, and all those who have so actively pushed for this to happen! Stay tuned for more details! 8 Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted October 21, 2016 Report Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) I was signed up for a chamber ride at ASU about a month ago. After reading an article about the negative health effects and reading the release that I had to sign for the ride I canceled. The thought of getting locked in a room that I cannot get out of unless someone lets me out of that can kill me seems like too much risk for the reward. The chamber had no automatic controls, no automatic safety systems. If the lone operator had a hart attack while the valve was open, all the people would die without a space suit. The chamber will go to FL930. The reduced oxygen chamber is much safer. I'm sure you can open the chamber from the inside. Chamber Release Form - New.pdf Chamber.pdf Edited October 21, 2016 by N201MKTurbo Quote
Hank Posted October 21, 2016 Report Posted October 21, 2016 That's great news, Mike! Looking forward to the checkout next fall. 1 Quote
mike_elliott Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Posted October 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Hank said: That's great news, Mike! Looking forward to the checkout next fall. It will be in 2018, unless the fiscal year end of the FAA makes the Mooney Summit V next Oct. fall into their Fiscal year 2018, Hank. They are booked that far out! Quote
Jeff_S Posted October 25, 2016 Report Posted October 25, 2016 Well, the government fiscal year does start October 1, but what's a year between friends? Sound great, and yet another reason the Mooney Summit keeps gaining in prominence. Looking forward to it! 1 Quote
mike_elliott Posted July 12, 2017 Author Report Posted July 12, 2017 I am saddened to say I just received the following email from the FAA. Apparently, we have been the victim of their travel budget and CAMI will not bring the PROTE unit to the Mooney Summit VI, scheduled for Sept 27- Sept 30, 2018. Previously, the Mooney Summit VI was on their schedule Perhaps we may get this very necessary and vital training in 2019.... Mike, Due to budget restrictions we had to cut down our travel. Don From: Mike Elliott [mailto:mike@aviating.com]Sent: July 11, 2017 11:09 AMTo: Demuth, Donald (FAA) <Donald.Demuth@faa.gov>Subject: RE: FAA PROTE Schedule 2018 Hi Don, We were on the 2018 schedule, and now we are not? Panama city Beach Fl. Please advise as I have told the world we were having CAMI bring the Prote unit per the previous email you sent me. Thanks Mike Elliott Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Donald.Demuth@faa.govDate: 7/11/17 8:09 AM (GMT-07:00) To: jsteele@ppclubricants.com, tperkowski@att.net, marywunder@gmail.com, jim@herdware.net, gibbst@unk.edu, terri.l.wolcott@faa.gov, mike@aviating.com, michaelksamp@gmail.com, myronyoder@gmail.com, Lexpert@lexpertresearch.com, craigdavis@suu.edu, wingz4359y@hotmail.com, atpbill@gmail.com, kkalishek@yahoo.comCc: rogers.v.shaw@faa.govSubject: FAA PROTE Schedule 2018 We just completed the 2018 PROTE travel schedule We received over 20 PROTE request, but due to our limited manning and budget we were only able to support 6 PROTE trips! Atlanta Feb 2018 Reno (Women in Aviation) Mar 2018 Lakeland, FL (Sun N Fun) Apr 2018 Seattle May 2018 NY City Jun 2018 Oshkosh Jul 2018 Denver Sep 2018 If you would like to remain on the possible 2019 PROTE trips please respond. We are mandated to support WIA, Sun N Fun, and Oshkosh every year so that only leave us with 4 or 5 additional trips per year. Quote
mike_elliott Posted July 13, 2017 Author Report Posted July 13, 2017 While it is unlikely for 2018, We have processes in place (and on the hill) to see about getting it for 2019. Meanwhile, the prote unit will be available at OSH and SunNFun in 2018. Those going to OSHKOSH, take the opportunity to stop by the FAA display and let CAMI group know how important it is for us bug smashers that occupy the 10-17K region of airspace. Put in a pitch for them to find the sheckles to bring their chamber to the Mooney Summit! 1 Quote
orionflt Posted July 13, 2017 Report Posted July 13, 2017 As an airman in the military I have gone thru the hyperbaric chamber numerous times, it is easy to miss the signs of hypoxia until it is too late. while in the chamber doing tasks you feel fine, it is even funny to watch what others are doing. even in the chamber where you are hypersensitive you do not realize how impaired you were until you put the oxygen back on and your hear clears. the better shape you are in the longer it takes for hypoxia to set in but no one is immune. this is a great tool for all pilots, not just the ones flying high, if you have poor circulation or low pulse ox levels you can actually become hypoxic at lower levels. Brian 4 Quote
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