flight2000 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 So, I sold our M20E last month as mentioned in the classified section and I had made a reference that we picked up our new bird roughly 4 days later. Decided to finally reveal that I went to the "dark side" and ended up buying a 1968 Beech E33A Bonanza....I know boo-hiss... I was targeting a later model M20J or even an early model M20R but the prices and useful load that I was looking for with my current/future mission just didn't match as well as I had hoped. All the M20J's had really low useful loads, most were less than 900 pounds??? So I started looking at the F33A, S35, and V35 (straight, A, and B versions) Bonanza's just to see what else was out there. Unfortunately, prices for good F33A's are rather high (over inflated in my opinion) but we got lucky and found ours in the sub-$100K range. There are only 51 E33A's on the FAA registry, so this particular model is even more rare than some Mooney's. Production on the E33A only lasted 2 years (68-69) before changing to the F33A model in 1970. The useful load on ours is 1174 pounds and will carry 270 pounds in the baggage compartment. Huge improvement over my M20E and no way I could have my son do what he did in the second photo with a Mooney. The CG limits are not an issue (unlike the V tails, which can be a challenge sometimes) so managing our flights is easy, even with full fuel on-board. Speed wise, I gained about 20 knots over my M20E while burning about 6 gallons more per hour (...ouch) with the 2 additional cylinders to feed. The biggest selling point for my wife was the back seat area (never should have put her back there when we were looking at F33A's...) and passenger comfort. The rear seats lay almost flat in the fully reclined position and can be positioned anywhere from full up to full down. Not sure if the split seat Mooney's were capable of doing that??? Interesting to note that the Bonanza is 6 feet shorter from wing-tip to wing-tip than my M20E (I had the 201 wing-tips on mine). So, here she is just outside my hangar: Cheers, Brian former 1967 M20E owner/driver. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flight2000 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) Photos of the backseat area and business end. I've since moved the iPad Mini to the yoke after I found an after market mount designed specifically for the Beech Ram Yoke. It was not an issue up there and had no impact on my sight lines. Cheers, Brian Edited September 21, 2016 by flight2000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964-M20E Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Nice looking plane. You need to have what suits your mission no harm in that even though you defected from a Mooney. I think we will let you hang around. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eman1200 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 thanks, now I'm in the mood for some pringles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flight2000 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Just now, eman1200 said: thanks, now I'm in the mood for some pringles. I've got three cans here at work....but that really won't help much will it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSMooniac Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Looks like a great choice! Is that one of the rare aerobatic models? Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flight2000 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) Just now, KSMooniac said: Looks like a great choice! Is that one of the rare aerobatic models? Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk Thanks! Those would be the E33C and F33C models. Believe there were less than 25 total made of those. Cheers, Brian Edited September 21, 2016 by flight2000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Caution, fun harassment follows... Loading full sized kids in the back is a pain for the O. getting them over the baggage door hurdle is tough. Good luck with the new bird, Bryan. Having to study all the names of the models and versions of another brand keeps me from even thinking of leaving the M family. Hmmmmm.... Harpoon, that's turbine B, isn't it? Best regards, -a- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris_adams Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Super clean looking Bonanza Brian. I don't see any issue with appreciating the beauty of it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Has your landings improved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flight2000 Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 13 minutes ago, teejayevans said: Has your landings improved? Can't improve on perfection, so no... Actually, I've found the Bo to be a lot easier to slow down in the pattern and put it on my intended spot every time. The flaps are huge compared to the Mooney and the gear speeds are higher, so that makes it easier to slow down. Not that the Mooney was hard, just different technique. Speeds on final are very close, so didn't take that long to figure out how to land her. Brian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Just now, flight2000 said: Can't improve on perfection, so no... Actually, I've found the Bo to be a lot easier to slow down in the pattern and put it on my intended spot every time. The flaps are huge compared to the Mooney and the gear speeds are higher, so that makes it easier to slow down. Not that the Mooney was hard, just different technique. Speeds on final are very close, so didn't take that long to figure out how to land her. Brian Doesn't it feel weird sitting way up there? No more feeling like your butt will drag on the ground. Clarence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flight2000 Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, M20Doc said: Doesn't it feel weird sitting way up there? No more feeling like your butt will drag on the ground. Clarence It does...now I need a step stool to check the oil and clean the windshield before a flight. Even my son (who's 6'3") commented that he couldn't sit on the wing anymore without jumping... Brian Edited September 22, 2016 by flight2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyNameIsNobody Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Love the choice Brian. Only plane that I look at, besides Mooney of course, is the Beech F33. I love the look/performance and landing characteristics of the Beech. The sound is not to shabby either...No Rolls Royce Merlin, but a sweet sound in taxi or doing a flyby. Glad you got there. I knew you would. You rehabbed a beautiful E. Did it go to another ND fan? That would of been fitting. PS-Wholly crap on the growth of your son! When we went to Culver's years ago he resembled "average". He grew into a handsome young man. Well done. Enjoy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbridges Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 thanks for the update. I'm really liking that plane, especially the rear seats. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peevee Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) Looks real nice for sub-100k I find the bonanza to be a wonderful airplane to fly. Enjoy it Now, go get a tornado alley kit for it Edited September 22, 2016 by peevee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaV8or Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Should've bought your last plane first. Everybody says it. The Mooney really does seem to be the beginner Bonanza. I don't think anybody keeps stats, but I have found it pretty consistent that if a Mooney owner decides to "trade up" and they don't go twin or turbo prop, they go Bonanza. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flight2000 Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 2 hours ago, MyNameIsNobody said: Love the choice Brian. Only plane that I look at, besides Mooney of course, is the Beech F33. I love the look/performance and landing characteristics of the Beech. The sound is not to shabby either...No Rolls Royce Merlin, but a sweet sound in taxi or doing a flyby. Glad you got there. I knew you would. You rehabbed a beautiful E. Did it go to another ND fan? That would of been fitting. PS-Wholly crap on the growth of your son! When we went to Culver's years ago he resembled "average". He grew into a handsome young man. Well done. Enjoy! Thanks! Yea, he's growing like a spring weed. Went from 5'10" to 6'3" in about 8 months. Crazy growth spurt and he's not done by a long shot... I believe Mo's new owner is a closet ND fan...lol. He lives in the SoCal area, so who knows for sure... I already have a new N number reserved (N612ND) that will get put on at some point and we certainly got lucky with the paint scheme. I'll send you a note next summer and may stop by again in June if the timing works out. Think it's safe to say I'll be moving east after this assignment. Brian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flight2000 Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 1 hour ago, peevee said: Looks real nice for sub-100k I find the bonanza to be a wonderful airplane to fly. Enjoy it Now, go get a tornado alley kit for it We'll probably be moving back to the flat lands once I'm done with my assignment here in Reno, so a turbo isn't really necessary for me. When the engine is due for an overhaul, I'll probably upgrade to an IO-550 instead. Currently have an IO-520-BA on the nose. Have to say 285 hp was a big step up from the 200 hp I was used to. Brian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peevee Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 1 hour ago, flight2000 said: We'll probably be moving back to the flat lands once I'm done with my assignment here in Reno, so a turbo isn't really necessary for me. When the engine is due for an overhaul, I'll probably upgrade to an IO-550 instead. Currently have an IO-520-BA on the nose. Have to say 285 hp was a big step up from the 200 hp I was used to. Brian necessary is all relative Hrm, ND, notre dame or nodak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flight2000 Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Notre Dame. My wife (and basically her entire family before her) graduated from there in '97. Thankfully, my kids have no interest...so our $$$ is safe. Cheers, Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browncbr1 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) booo hissss.. should have looked at F's usually around 1040 useful.... just kidding.. slick looking Bo.. enjoy your new ride! Edited September 22, 2016 by Browncbr1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peevee Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 32 minutes ago, flight2000 said: Notre Dame. My wife (and basically her entire family before her) graduated from there in '97. Thankfully, my kids have no interest...so our $$$ is safe. Cheers, Brian FYI all the UND airplanes are NxxxND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShermAv8tor Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 14 hours ago, DaV8or said: Should've bought your last plane first. Everybody says it. The Mooney really does seem to be the beginner Bonanza. I don't think anybody keeps stats, but I have found it pretty consistent that if a Mooney owner decides to "trade up" and they don't go twin or turbo prop, they go Bonanza. that will be me in the future, Bonanza is where I wanted to start, but no complex time and no one would insure me as such a low time pilot....maybe one day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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