blaine beaven Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 8 hours ago, Bob_Belville said: Glenn, gotta love 50 AMU panels in 50 year old Mooneys with Johnson Bars. Got a pic of the after? Yesterday I was talking to a Comanche owner with a similar addiction. We agreed it can no longer be called an investment. It is the price that we are willing to pay for the enjoyment. Between the two stacks, is that the audio panel, mounted vertically? Is it a special model with the labels rotated, or is it a standard model just mounted 90 degrees from normal? Thanks? Blaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetdriven Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 It's a special PS engineering model that's made for mounting vertically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DXB Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 On 4/25/2016 at 5:09 PM, Glenn said: On 4/25/2016 at 8:45 AM, Bob_Belville said: Glenn, gotta love 50 AMU panels in 50 year old Mooneys with Johnson Bars. Got a pic of the after? Yesterday I was talking to a Comanche owner with a similar addiction. We agreed it can no longer be called an investment. It is the price that we are willing to pay for the enjoyment. Yeah tell me about it... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL757 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Wow. Now that's night and day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Nice choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 You went from the 1960's to 2020 in one upgrade - very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 On 5/18/2016 at 1:43 PM, blaine beaven said: Between the two stacks, is that the audio panel, mounted vertically? Is it a special model with the labels rotated, or is it a standard model just mounted 90 degrees from normal? Thanks? Blaine PS Engineering offers a vertical option. http://www.ps-engineering.com/pma8000b.shtml It fits nicely between the structural tubes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL757 Posted May 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Sneak peek at the end of Week 5...dry-fit of everything before metal panel cut. Couple of adjustments needed yet, like moving everything up nearly an inch so the rudder trim and gear handle (those two side-by-side holes above control column) clear the lower horizontal structural tube. Also puts the GDU620 up a bit higher, and aligns the top of the ESI500 to the top edge of the 750. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 3 hours ago, StevenL757 said: Sneak peek at the end of Week 5...dry-fit of everything before metal panel cut. Couple of adjustments needed yet, like moving everything up nearly an inch so the rudder trim and gear handle (those two side-by-side holes above control column) clear the lower horizontal structural tube. Also puts the GDU620 up a bit higher, and aligns the top of the ESI500 to the top edge of the 750. I've seen some that put in glass panels with EFIS backup that place the backup so the horizon is exactly lined up with the horizon on the main glass so that transition is easier. All a matter of personal preference though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL757 Posted May 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Yep, you nailed it. That's exactly what they're doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Steven, I'm calling shotgun for trial flights that follow the major upgrade exercise. Complete engineering level notes, if desired. If that spot is filled, I make good ballast in the back. That panel is starting to look really nice. Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL757 Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 That spot is NOT filled yet. :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 3 hours ago, StevenL757 said: Sneak peek at the end of Week 5...dry-fit of everything before metal panel cut. Couple of adjustments needed yet, like moving everything up nearly an inch so the rudder trim and gear handle (those two side-by-side holes above control column) clear the lower horizontal structural tube. Also puts the GDU620 up a bit higher, and aligns the top of the ESI500 to the top edge of the 750. I've seen some that put in glass panels with EFIS backup that place the backup so the horizon is exactly lined up with the horizon on the main glass so that transition is easier. All a matter of personal preference though. That's what I had them do with my mechanical AI backup. Not sure why they wanted to place it low in the panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry 5TJ Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Nice "T" shaped scan in your F, Chris It is hard to lose attitude awareness when you see three AI in your scan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 44 minutes ago, Jerry 5TJ said: Nice "T" shaped scan in your F, Chris It is hard to lose attitude awareness when you see three AI in your scan. The only I don't like about having a mechanical AI as a backup is adjusting to the lesser "sensitivity" of the mechanical AI. Both Aspens have almost a full inch of deflection to reach the 10 degree climb or descent marks. On the mechanical it is closer to a little over a quarter inch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ftlausa Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 I am developing some major panel envy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Just now, Ftlausa said: I am developing some major panel envy. You too can be a member of the "You spent that on a 50 year old airplane? club". Easy to become a member. Just go to your favorite avionics shop, leave your wallet and checkbook and come back in 4 to 6 weeks. No fuss, no hassle, no money left... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ftlausa Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Truth is, I am having a 650/750/345 stack being installed at present. I just could not pull the trigger on the glass panel, however. I was afraid if I did, my wife would pull a different trigger on me!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 19 minutes ago, Ftlausa said: Truth is, I am having a 650/750/345 stack being installed at present. I just could not pull the trigger on the glass panel, however. I was afraid if I did, my wife would pull a different trigger on me!! Let her take the shot. Might get lucky and it will miss the vital organs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ftlausa Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 She's a good shot, and its a BIG target that she would be shooting at! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Belville Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Loving this whole thread. Welcome to the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWinter Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 So good to see so many insane people who have lost sight of perspective on MS. As we say in the fitness biz.. "Go big or go home ". Some good looking panels out there. Lets keep these old birds flying and looking good. Very nice!! -Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptsticks Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Newbie here. Thought I would share my panel upgrade. Decided to install SAM, for backup attitude, altitude and heading with independent AHRS for heading, after both panels went black in IMC on approach, not the best day. GTX345 Transponder which allowed me to install Garmin 825 active traffic, as well as ADSB In/Out, although not needed in Canada, yet, and no coverage except when I fly along border or into the US, TRIG Comm 3 and TRIG Transponder 2. If I could only find a place for a second engine, I would be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Nice pictures, PT. The SAM just fits nicely in that location... Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 57 minutes ago, Ptsticks said: Newbie here. Thought I would share my panel upgrade. Decided to install SAM, for backup attitude, altitude and heading with independent AHRS for heading, after both panels went black in IMC on approach, not the best day. GTX345 Transponder which allowed me to install Garmin 825 active traffic, as well as ADSB In/Out, although not needed in Canada, yet, and no coverage except when I fly along border or into the US, TRIG Comm 3 and TRIG Transponder 2. If I could only find a place for a second engine, I would be happy. I can't even imagine everything going black in IMC on approach - very sobering. Great idea putting in the SAM with the battery backup and the COM 3 and XPNDR 2. I still can't believe that Mooney (and Beech in the Bonanza) got the G1000 approved with the backup instruments on the far right - very difficult to use those in the most difficult of circumstances - and with no backup nav whatsoever (thankfully now everyone has an iPad or something like it). Back when this got approved, wouldn't it have made more sense to put a 2" attitude, altimeter and airspeed somewhere in the pilot's field of view? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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