orionflt Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Looks like we lost another C model at heritage field in Pottstown PA. http://www.fox29.com/news/103446412-story http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2016/03/accident-occurred-march-09-2016-at.html Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orionflt Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Looks like he lost power after take off, walked away from it but may have internal injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Oh, man, that stinks! At least he was walking around when the ambulance arrived. Hope he's alright . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danb Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Looks like a great job of piloting,thank god he seems ok. Better result than that poor cirrus last week. I wonder if he's one of us on MS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Glad he walked away. Hope he recovers. N242TS is the tail number. I don't want to be in that situation, however if I lose an engine on takeoff, I too hope to be able to walk away. Again, here's to a quick recovery. -Seth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyNameIsNobody Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, Seth said: Glad he walked away. Hope he recovers. N242TS is the tail number. I don't want to be in that situation, however if I lose an engine on takeoff, I too hope to be able to walk away. Again, here's to a quick recovery. -Seth +1 EVERY pilot's nightmare... Here's to his seeing those he care's about again. Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Owner info... https://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N242TS Hope he is well. Best regards, -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB65E Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Shoulder harness? Just hoping. -Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piloto Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 No parachute required. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DXB Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 My backyard. Don't know pilot but know of him through a mutual friend. Will inquire further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orionflt Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 By the look of the tail I think he stalled it in trying to make the runway environment. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarmaster Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Cabin completely intact. Got to love the safety of the roll cage! Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Belville Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 2 hours ago, orionflt said: By the look of the tail I think he stalled it in trying to make the runway environment. Brian I'm trying to figure out what/how he hit. Please expand on your analysis. Doesn't a stall usually result in a nose first dive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ftlausa Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 I am curious about the plane's attitude when it made contact with the ground. The tail bend looks like it may have hit tail first or made contact with a tree on landing. Glad to see it held together and hopefully only minor injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrach Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 18 minutes ago, Bob_Belville said: I'm trying to figure out what/how he hit. Please expand on your analysis. Doesn't a stall usually result in a nose first dive? Does not look like a stall to me either. It looks like it came in at a shallow angle and got pinballed by the terrain. You can see that it was not under power when it hit, but that one of the prop blades (on the right) took a hard hit and at an angle. That would have caused the plane to yaw right, pushing the tail left. If you look carefully in the pics, you can see the pilot's side horizontal stab took a hard hit (likely while in that left yawing condition) which likely forced the empennage into it's current position. You can also see that the nosecone hit something almost dead on. The fact that the cowl is not deformed suggests that it did not hit nose low. My armchair analysis looking at the wreckage is that this guy did it right. He likely flew it all the way into the crash. Admirable job...! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orionflt Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 With the way the tail is twisted to the side and it looks like he was low to the ground, pulling back on the yoke bringing the nose up, when the aircraft stalled the aircraft would have settled on the tail as the wing lost lift. Being close to the ground the twisting of the wing drop would translate to the tail that had already impacted. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviatoreb Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Bob_Belville said: I'm trying to figure out what/how he hit. Please expand on your analysis. Doesn't a stall usually result in a nose first dive? That's what I would think. If energy is transferred to the tail rather than the nose, do to a deep flare two or three feet from the ground, that is close to a perfect forced landing. Vs trying to stretch the glide at 50+ feet and auguring in nose first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviatoreb Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 I always feel a bit tepid about Monday-Morning-Quarterbacking someone's crash landing, as if I would do better, but I think this is a VERY good activity for all of us, since what we are really doing is a form of practice/currency. We are visualizing what we would want to do and not to do in such a situation. SO we are training ourselves to hopefully have a plan and basic methods if it ever happens to us. Hopefully I would do as I wish I would do in my monday morning quarter back analysis. I am so glad this fellow seems to have had a reasonable outcome, and I wish him a speedy recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy0681 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 This scenario is my worst nightmare at my home base because it's in an urban area with no open fields anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 There is no indication that the horizontal stabs hit anything. It almost looks like he wrapped it around a solid object. The left aileron also appears not to be attached. I think I have seen this Mooney at New Garden buying fuel. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M20F Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 13 hours ago, Danb said: Looks like a great job of piloting,thank god he seems ok. Better result than that poor cirrus last week. I wonder if he's one of us on MS. Assuming you are talking about this Incident, how is this a better result? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsengle Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 No I assume he is talking about the fatal stall/spin pattern accident. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201er Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 I am always happy to see how intact the fuselage of a Mooney is after a crash. The whole plane can be mangled beyond recognition, but the part that protects your bacon stays whole! I'm sure Alan the Boogie Man smells an opportunity here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrach Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Marauder said: There is no indication that the horizontal stabs hit anything. It almost looks like he wrapped it around a solid object. The left aileron also appears not to be attached. I think I have seen this Mooney at New Garden buying fuel. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk That horizontal stab looks unimpacted to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Marauder said: There is no indication that the horizontal stabs hit anything. It almost looks like he wrapped it around a solid object. The left aileron also appears not to be attached. I think I have seen this Mooney at New Garden buying fuel. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk That horizontal stab looks unimpacted to you? There is damage to the left horizontal stab, but don't you think to bend the entire tail almost to a 90° angle would cause a lot more damage than just damage to the tip? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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