chrisk Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 I've been on a quest to find an intercooler for my plane. Is this one an airflow systems, turbo plus, or some other intercooler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBCK Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 It looks like my Turboplus, but I wouldn't bank on it as the other model, cant remember the name, may look the same. Ithink its a turboplus as it has the cooling rad facing the side were the cowling has been cut it, I didn't think the other model had the cowling mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisk Posted March 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 That is what I was thinking. It looks like it is in the right spot for a TurboPlus intercooler. But it is a pretty ugly looking intercooler, and the ones on TurboPlus' website look much nicer. In any case, I am on the hunt for an Airflow systems intercooler. Mostly because it seems like a lot of work (and cost) to add the TurboPlus intercooler. I can easily see spending $5K to get a TurboPlus intercooler installed. All kinds of things need to be modified: the cowling, the cowl flaps, some paint, the heater control, and a new elbow for the waste gate. --I'll ask Don Maxwell for his opinion when I take my plane in for its annual next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptRJM Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 I don't think it is a Turbo Plus. It is not designed quite the same. What does the 337 say? Don't bank on finding an Airflow Systems Intercooler. They stopped production at least 4 years ago. There have been numerous teasers to the 231 Community that they would start production gain if they had some orders ... but they never moved off the mark. The Turbo Plus is not that hard to install. My AP and I did it in a little more than a day. The heater box mod is very simple. Everything else is very straightforward. Yes, you'll have to paint the lower cowl and touch up the cowl flaps. If you don't have a fancy paint job, it shouldn't stop you. I don't know anyone with an Airflow Systems Intercooler so I can't compare performance but, I would think the NACA duct in the Turbo Plus installation will deliver more cooling air than the blast tube design that Airflow uses. At cruise altitudes I frequently see over a 100 degree drop between CDT and IAT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
320KPH Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 I got a new radiator for my Yamaha RD 350 Motorcycle made by a company that was doing similar things in China It was a THIRD of the price of the same thing from Europe... There's heaps of low price car intercoolers on the market and it really gets me how the aviation community gets stung by manufacturers for the essential same product. I to me it just looks like a rectangular intercooler with custom fabricated ends on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisk Posted March 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 I'm not trying to make it sound like a bargain, but the TurboPlus kit comes with the intercooler, induction plumbing, some gauges, and a duct for the side of your cowling. You are also getting some assurance that flight testing was done and that something horrible will not happen by installing it. Unfortunately it's an estimated 30 hours of install time, plus paint work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N201MKTurbo Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 You are not paying for the parts. You are paying for all the engineering that has to be done to FAA standards, the work done to get it through certification. the FAA manufacturing quality system that has to be in place to make the thing. All that cost is spread over a few hundred parts. I would say it is a wonder it is so cheap! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Shapiro Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) On 3/23/2015 at 7:00 AM, chrisk said: That is what I was thinking. It looks like it is in the right spot for a TurboPlus intercooler. But it is a pretty ugly looking intercooler, and the ones on TurboPlus' website look much nicer. In any case, I am on the hunt for an Airflow systems intercooler. Mostly because it seems like a lot of work (and cost) to add the TurboPlus intercooler. I can easily see spending $5K to get a TurboPlus intercooler installed. All kinds of things need to be modified: the cowling, the cowl flaps, some paint, the heater control, and a new elbow for the waste gate. --I'll ask Don Maxwell for his opinion when I take my plane in for its annual next On 3/23/2015 at 2:49 PM, chrisk said: I'm not trying to make it sound like a bargain, but the TurboPlus kit comes with the intercooler, induction plumbing, some gauges, and a duct for the side of your cowling. You are also getting some assurance that flight testing was done and that something horrible will not happen by installing it. Unfortunately it's an estimated 30 hours of install time, plus paint work. And it now comes with a 5 year warranty and 24/7 live customer service phone line. Edited January 26, 2018 by Jeff Shapiro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Shapiro Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 On 3/21/2015 at 8:08 AM, chrisk said: I've been on a quest to find an intercooler for my plane. Is this one an airflow systems, turbo plus, or some other intercooler? Airflow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Shapiro Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 On 3/23/2015 at 7:00 AM, chrisk said: That is what I was thinking. It looks like it is in the right spot for a TurboPlus intercooler. But it is a pretty ugly looking intercooler, and the ones on TurboPlus' website look much nicer. In any case, I am on the hunt for an Airflow systems intercooler. Mostly because it seems like a lot of work (and cost) to add the TurboPlus intercooler. I can easily see spending $5K to get a TurboPlus intercooler installed. All kinds of things need to be modified: the cowling, the cowl flaps, some paint, the heater control, and a new elbow for the waste gate. --I'll ask Don Maxwell for his opinion when I take my plane in for its annual next week. That is not a Turboplus intercooler. View the quality craftsmanship that goes into all Turboplus components at Www.Turboplus.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Shapiro Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 On 3/21/2015 at 8:08 AM, chrisk said: I've been on a quest to find an intercooler for my plane. Is this one an airflow systems, turbo plus, or some other intercooler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Shapiro Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 This is the Turboplus Aircraft Systems M20K intercooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisk Posted September 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Jeff Shapiro said: I'd love to have one of these. But I'm not sure I am ready to take the hit for the install and purchase just yet. --Maybe it is just me, but I want things done properly on my plane. I've found to many mechanics that do sloppy work. I'll have to consider it when my plane goes back to Maxwell's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Shapiro Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 I'll find you a local mechanic that has installed our products, we monitor their workmanship with customer follow-ups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptRJM Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 Where are you located? My AP at KSUT has done several including mine. Quality of workmanship is excellent. Installation will take about a day and a half not 30 hours. If you have a simple paint scheme he may be able to take care of that too. PM me if you want any additional info. Yes, the Airflow Systems would be a more simple install but they are no longer manufactured and you can not monitor effectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Shapiro Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 On 9/24/2017 at 7:13 PM, CaptRJM said: Where are you located? My AP at KSUT has done several including mine. Quality of workmanship is excellent. Installation will take about a day and a half not 30 hours. If you have a simple paint scheme he may be able to take care of that too. PM me if you want any additional info. Yes, the Airflow Systems would be a more simple install but they are no longer manufactured and you can not monitor effectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Shapiro Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 The Turboplus intercooler gives you temperature readings throughout your entire flight with a kit supplied Davtron differential gauge mounted on the panel. Advantage with the Turboplus system is that you have options; Fly Cool, Fly Fast, Save Gas. all because you can set your MP as you choose; because you can see your cooling benefits and fly as you desire. Our Temperature Gauge; Fly Cool - Fly Fast - Save Gas IN (up position) Turbo to Intercooler inlet OUT (down position) Intercooler out to engine CENTER POSITION (Differential Temperature Display) The Airflow intercooler cooling temperatures cannot be visually verified in flight. You fly how they tell you to fly... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carusoam Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 Jeff, warning... attempt at intercooler humor follows.... Is it true... Knowledge is power? -a- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Shapiro Posted February 3, 2018 Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) They never supplied a gauge with their intercooler kit. They gave you corrected settings on how to fly with their intercooler. And we know, not all engines perform the same. TURBOPLUS Intercooler kits come with the differential gauge so you know exactly where your corrected MP should be set. Edited February 3, 2018 by Jeff Shapiro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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