Sabremech

Vintage Mooney Cowling Mod

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54 minutes ago, daver328 said:

I've been loosely following along with your progress ... You're starting with '66 and newer ... correct?

I gather our 65 C will not be on the STC initially? Is that right?

Mooneys built before 1966 were just prototypes. The ready for prime time real ones date from '66. (Sadly,after '66 things went downhill leading quickly to stuff like wimpy gear and fixed steps.)

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7 hours ago, daver328 said:

I've been loosely following along with your progress ... You're starting with '66 and newer ... correct?

I gather our 65 C will not be on the STC initially? Is that right?

You are correct. There is enough difference that my parts won't fit the same way as 66 and up will. I intend to come back around to those when I have the 66 and up complete and in production. I will need to make some money to fund the next project. 

Thanks, 

David

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I suspect that for the Top Prop installs, the spinner spec'd for the 201 should work? That was my plan when I order my prop.

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On 10/22/2016 at 6:48 PM, Sabremech said:

You are correct. There is enough difference that my parts won't fit the same way as 66 and up will. I intend to come back around to those when I have the 66 and up complete and in production. I will need to make some money to fund the next project. 

Thanks, 

David

I had no idea they made running changes like that under the cowl. 

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Not so much running changes as they were Annual model year changes.  But even the model year changes were distributed over a period of airframes and extra parts still in the bins...

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On 10/22/2016 at 5:48 PM, Sabremech said:

You are correct. There is enough difference that my parts won't fit the same way as 66 and up will. I intend to come back around to those when I have the 66 and up complete and in production. I will need to make some money to fund the next project. 

Thanks, 

David

I look forward to helping you make some money :)

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2 months bump.

Any updates, David?

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I'm getting ready to mod a G model very soon. After that I will be doing an F model. I've throttled back a bit from going the full STC route right now as the time frame to get that done continues to grow with changes of processes and personnel in the FAA making it more difficult. I'm now working with DER's to get 8110 approvals per aircraft for a 337 approval. The time to get this done is substantially reduced and some cost is reduced as well. Look for an update on these two aircraft getting completed in the next couple of months. 

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When will you have any information on pricing David?  Even a range would be helpful in budgeting/planning for an installation.  Very interested, as you know in this conversion to our M20E.  Nice that we are Midwest based within <2 hours flying time to your shop in Wisconsin.  Glad work is progressing.

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Working on the spinner pricing right now. I'm in the process of purchasing 2 lightly used spinners and mounting kits, so I'll have that pricing available if I can get more of those in the future. I'm waiting on my price for new spinners and then I can come out with a good estimate for the kit. 

David

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34 minutes ago, Sabremech said:

Working on the spinner pricing right now. I'm in the process of purchasing 2 lightly used spinners and mounting kits, so I'll have that pricing available if I can get more of those in the future. I'm waiting on my price for new spinners and then I can come out with a good estimate for the kit. 

David

I have a compatible spinner so "kit" would be less that spinner.  2-4Amu's? 2-5Amu's.....Come on tease me.

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2 hours ago, MyNameIsNobody said:

I have a compatible spinner so "kit" would be less that spinner.  2-4Amu's? 2-5Amu's.....Come on tease me.

Hey everyone, look. Nobody wants to be teased. Marauder, you first.

:):) 

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6 hours ago, Sabremech said:

Working on the spinner pricing right now. I'm in the process of purchasing 2 lightly used spinners and mounting kits, so I'll have that pricing available if I can get more of those in the future. I'm waiting on my price for new spinners and then I can come out with a good estimate for the kit. 

David

I just want it to come out!

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2 hours ago, Mcstealth said:

Hey everyone, look. Nobody wants to be teased. Marauder, you first.

:):) 

What is even worse is I have seen the mod in person. That is real teasing, err I mean, torture!

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32 minutes ago, Marauder said:

I just want it to come out!

Marauder,

 I haven't forgotten about you!

 David

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2 hours ago, Sabremech said:

Marauder,

 I haven't forgotten about you!

 David

Me too. And I have a compatible spinner.

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7 hours ago, Bob_Belville said:

Me too. And I have a compatible spinner.

You too! 

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I'm just curious which price band it's in--4, 14 or 24 AMU . . . And I'll be sad to give up my shiny 3-blade Hartzell spinner . . . . :(

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2 hours ago, Hank said:

I'm just curious which price band it's in--4, 14 or 24 AMU . . . And I'll be sad to give up my shiny 3-blade Hartzell spinner . . . . :(

Still not able to give out pricing yet. Still some unknown variables that can have a major impact on the complete kit price. 

I would think I'd be able to get a new 3 blade shiny spinner that will fit the mod.

David

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On 1/8/2017 at 1:33 PM, Sabremech said:

I'm getting ready to mod a G model very soon. After that I will be doing an F model. I've throttled back a bit from going the full STC route right now as the time frame to get that done continues to grow with changes of processes and personnel in the FAA making it more difficult. I'm now working with DER's to get 8110 approvals per aircraft for a 337 approval. The time to get this done is substantially reduced and some cost is reduced as well. Look for an update on these two aircraft getting completed in the next couple of months. 

David, I'm not clear on the 8110 Approval and what exactly that means.  Is it a way to get a 337 approved faster, individually?   Also, I'm not clear on which model you're working on getting out first---is it a C?  I'm hopeful an E mod is in the works.   Thanks.

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21 minutes ago, Aviationinfo said:

David, I'm not clear on the 8110 Approval and what exactly that means.  Is it a way to get a 337 approved faster, individually?   Also, I'm not clear on which model you're working on getting out first---is it a C?  I'm hopeful an E mod is in the works.   Thanks.

 

See the last few paragraphs for explanation:

http://www.aviationpros.com/article/10387607/the-question-to-field-approve-or-to-stc

 

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8 hours ago, Aviationinfo said:

David, I'm not clear on the 8110 Approval and what exactly that means.  Is it a way to get a 337 approved faster, individually?   Also, I'm not clear on which model you're working on getting out first---is it a C?  I'm hopeful an E mod is in the works.   Thanks.

Right now my mod will fit 1966 and up C, E, F, and G models. It's my intent to work on the earlier models on the future. 

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My shop is starting to fill up with Mooney cowling mod parts. Two shiny things arrived today for the G and then F model that I'll be modding soon. 

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Looking good!!

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Just now, Hank said:

Looking good!!

I think I'm seeing your next mod, Hank.

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