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Because liberalism destroyed the USA including general aviation...

There is a lot of "woe is me" stuff going around in the aviation internets.  It's a waste of time.  Get your butt up and go flying, and take a friend with you.

What people seem to forget is it takes both a left wing and a right wing for an airplane to fly.

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"Careful! You'll get Byron and Clarence "all worked-up" about those "Radical Atheists!""

 

 

  More on that...I wonder why this isn't getting more news coverage?

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/12/us/muslim-student-shootings-north-carolina.html

 

“Praying is pointless, useless, narcissistic, arrogant, and lazy; just like the imaginary god you pray to.”    Where have I heard stuff like this? 

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“Praying is pointless, useless, narcissistic, arrogant, and lazy; just like the imaginary god you pray to.”    Where have I heard stuff like this? 

Probably from yours truly. Praying is incompatible with both calvinism and free will. But then I highly doubt anyone here professing to be Christian has spent too much time analyzing the details. If you're a calvinist, you'd understand that the Good Lord no longer pays attention, because he's seen the show already. If you do believe in free will, you must understand that divine intervention and miracles take you square back to calvinism and predetermination, as generally you are praying for a positive earthly outcome, which either would affect someone else negatively or take away some other actor's free will, as in a gun in face during the robbery and the robber suffering from sudden repentance. The only praying you should be doing is for the souls of the dead, but only if you're not a calvinist, because the Lord's hands are tied on that one. So really, praying is only compatible with Catholic faith, the one and only true religion. Ain't purgatory grand. If analyzed further, Calvinism does not actually require a living God aka prime mover in the present, being actually quite compatible with evolution. You can actually be a Souther Baptist and present day atheist, as long as you do not deny the existence of a prime mover at one point in the past.

 

Paradox of free will essentially makes the question of whether or not God exists unimportant. 

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The point being that there has been much killing and death brought to the world in the name of gods of various religions over the history of mankind.  Some have stopped their barbaric ways more recently than others.  Am I wrong?

 

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I am still laughing over Byron whining to me about the inability to wage war in the middle east due to not having enough money due to sequestration. I don't want to wage war in the Middle East. GET OUT. There was a time for occupation. That time has past, ship has sailed. The end.

Meanwhile Vlad is talking with Ukraine. Is Peace in the air? Maybe they sprayed each other with Axe and made it all better.

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I am still laughing over Byron whining to me about the inability to wage war in the middle east due to not having enough money due to sequestration. I don't want to wage war in the Middle East. GET OUT. There was a time for occupation. That time has past, ship has sailed. The end.

Meanwhile Vlad is talking with Ukraine. Is Peace in the air? Maybe they sprayed each other with Axe and made it all better.

Nope, I'm with you, lets stay out of other people's messes. We have the largest millitary in the entire world and an ocean on both sides. Lets cool it.

 

What I did say is all these chickenhawks should pass a 3 Trillion dollar tax increase to go along with the declaration of war. You know, to pay for cost of said warfare.  That ought to put things into perspective. From the party of fiscal responsibility, how about pay as you go.

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I am still laughing over Byron whining to me about the inability to wage war in the middle east due to not having enough money due to sequestration. I don't want to wage war in the Middle East. GET OUT. There was a time for occupation. That time has past, ship has sailed. The end.

Meanwhile Vlad is talking with Ukraine. Is Peace in the air? Maybe they sprayed each other with Axe and made it all better.

 

Was there really ever any time for occupation there? We killed more people in the first month of that war than Saddam did in the prior 10 years. Maybe, just maybe, our friendly and not so friendly middle eastern dictators just know what they are doing? Maybe the herd needs a little bit of thinning each year to keep it in check, you know, with the total lack of civilization and their natural predisposition to violence. 

 

Not that I agree with Berry here, but maybe, now, for the first time ever we might have some local support where prior we had none? You know, with the whole ISIS bbq and all. Apparently beheadings were fine with these folks. Now, burning people alive, well, they now crossed the line: savages. I'm still all about staying out of there other than precision herd thinning as needed (aka Christ's Love From Above ), but I think we're about to find out that presidents really like to play warrior. It's simply irresistible.

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You forgot ...

The other "'gods" ...

GOVERNMENTS ... have killed even more ... In their quest for world domination.

E.g. The Romans, WWI, WWII Germany's socialist government led by Hitler, Japan, Italy ... Russia's Czars ... China ...

religion aside ... A case could be made, and would be correct, governments are the number one killer in the history of mankind.

Hard to believe I know?

 

Dave,

 

Correct. However analyze history of all nations you mentioned. Fascists were in cahoots with the Catholic Church. Russian's Czars essentially relied on Eastern Orthodox Church as one of the executive arms of government, the Czar and Church were one and the same. In Japan, the Emperor was actually a deity. China, North Korea and USSR had cults of personality that rivaled that of any god. North Korea still does. They worship that chubby fucker. His grandpa is still technically the president. What would that make them? A necrocracy? 

 

Maybe mixing government and religion is not such a great thing. Look at our middle eastern "friends". 

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I think this thread has gone too far and needs some PooPourri

 

 

 

Stopping by for a little self affirmation....you and Phantom and two or three others..a little fly-by. Bring ideology or merit or..... mosy on to being a know-it-all on another thread. Problem with pilots? They are all smarty pants and never succeeded at much else. Oooops....sorry Daver...didn't mean it like that, but you get the idea.

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Not that I agree with Berry here, but maybe, now, for the first time ever we might have some local support where prior we had none? You know, with the whole ISIS bbq and all. Apparently beheadings were fine with these folks. Now, burning people alive, well, they now crossed the line: savages. I'm still all about staying out of there other than precision herd thinning as needed (aka Christ's Love From Above ), but I think we're about to find out that presidents really like to play warrior. It's simply irresistible.

 

Just like Fox said, why can't Berry be more like King Abdulla?

 

 

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/mtqomx/wish-you-were-him

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I guess, at the national prayer breakfast, the President forgot to warn us about those crazy, dangerous Atheists running around. Did non believers even have a seat at the prayer breakfast tables?

 

 

 

http://www.jpost.com/International/Suspected-atheist-in-police-custody-after-allegedly-killing-three-Muslims-in-US-390682

 

 

Please educate yourself about the differences between atheist, agnostic, and anti-theist.  Thanks.

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Please educate yourself about the differences between atheist, agnostic, and anti-theist.  Thanks.

 

Is it really that important? Continuing with the theme.... in the end isn't it the same shit with a slightly different tint to it or are you just being picky?

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When I think of Barry, I think how much like honest Abe he really is! No play acting or falsehoods, deceit or divisive statements. What an honest Abe! What a unifier! If the guys says something, you can really take him for his word. He really reaches out across the aisle! No shifting with the sands of the political desert - the guy is a rock!

 

 

As always you don't look back into history too much do you?

 

As for reaching across the aisle, the stage was set when old turtlepuss (Mitch McConnell) said that it was the job of the GOP to make sure that Berry was a one term president. In retrospect, he couldn't even get that one right.

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Are you saying you trust "honest Barry" to tell you the truth? He's a real "man of honour?"

 

I trust him as much as I trusted his predecessors. How's that?

 

Should I have trusted you know who when he said that Saddam had a whole arsenal of WMD's? Like I said, you don't go back much into history.

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I trust him as much as I trusted his predecessors. How's that?

 

Should I have trusted you know who when he said that Saddam had a whole arsenal of WMD's? Like I said, you don't go back much into history.

 

I trust him as much as I trusted Reagan when he said he had absolutely no knowledge of what became Iran-Contra.

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Is it really that important? Continuing with the theme.... in the end isn't it the same shit with a slightly different tint to it or are you just being picky?

I guess you're right. It's the same shit with different tint in the same way Catholicism, Islam, and Wicca are.

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I guess you're right. It's the same shit with different tint in the same way Catholicism, Islam, and Wicca are.

 

All borrowed from one another's books and holidays...You don't have to go back far, look at Mormons. Entirely made up religion, not so far away in history that facts cannot be verified. Gold plates, reading from hats behind curtains, God picking an illiterate convicted fraudster to dictate the holy book to, Native Americans being the lost tribe of Israel (even though DNA clearly proves otherwise), etc, etc, etc. And yet it has millions of followers. Even John thinks they are good Christians. 

 

Something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue (indicating lack of oxygen to brain)

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Barry is making the HARD SELL case right now to go to war on ISIS. I haven't seen you on here demanding for proof of WMDs? Cat got your tongue?

 

I might have missed something, but Berry's been bombing ISIS for 6 months. How is the sell hard? Both sides want to give me more than he asking for and he really doesn't have to ask. What are you all talking about?

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