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Looking for a PIREP on 1978 M20J, N201LC, that has been for sale for a while on MAPA classifieds. Has anyone seen this airplane in person? Hangared at KUGN (IL). Thank you in advance.

Hello everyone, I'm new to this forum (also knew to airplane ownership). Since I bought my 77' M20J a month ago I have been having problems with starting it. When I follow the POH, the engine doesn't start on my first attempt. After letting the starter cool, I cycle the throttle and mixture and it usually starts on the second or third attempt. Most of my flight experience has been in CG helicopters - with digital engine controls, and I've never had starting problems. My problem might just be my limited experience with GA aircraft. These are the key steps I follow in starting my Mooney. Can any of you give me advice? Am I doing something wrong? 1. Electric boost pump ON (1-2 seconds, to establish fuel pressure) 2. Mixture full forward for 3-5 seconds. (when I do this, the fuel pressure drops) then IDLE CUTOFF 3. Throttle 1/4 forward 4. Engage starter 5. Once the engine starts, Mixture slowly to full rich 6. Throttle - 1000-1200 RPM Thanks, Roger

I am looking for a recommendation for an annual inspection in Bismarck, North Dakota. I have had two shops recommended but neither were from Mooney drivers. They were: Bismarck Aero Center, Inc. and Executive Air in Bismarck in North Dakota Any Bismarck / North Dakota Mooney owners have experience with either of these two? I thank you in advance!

Hi, me and my Mooney are based in Germany and I‘m looking for a used / new glareshild. Could anyone give me a useful link? Thanks in advance.

What are the differences between the Mooney M20F and the M20F Exec 21? Thank you in advance.

Hello,I’ve been searching for my first Mooney for the past 12 months and studied the pros/cons of the models within my budget. I've found a 231 priced like a 201 (for some reasons) and I am about to send her for a PPI but I am having second thoughts after receiving several warnings about the TSIO 360 (this bird is fitted with the LB version with Intercooler).In my view, the pros of a 231 vs. 201 are:- De-iced prop- Option to climb if caught in icing- Climb above most WX- Fly faster in high teens FL- Better original avionics e.g. KFC200The cons are:- Bad reputation of the Continental TSIO 360 vs. the Lycoming in the 201- Serious engine management required- Increased maintenance costsIn terms of mission, I am looking at the following:- 2 pax & luggage for long weekends- 3h legs --could push my wife to 4h if it’s to go somewhere sunny - UK-based- Trips to Western Europe/Nordics/AlpsI’ve heard so many contradicting advice that I am a bit lost now and would love to hear from the experts experienced with both birds (if possible as owners/mechanics/pilots). Thank you !

Trying to do a comparison of a typical "normal" (if that even exist in our world) cost of an annual on a M20E or more recent M20. If you care to share the cost of your last couple of annuals, I have my spreadsheet running. If major work was done beyond the normal during the annual, new Garmin 430W installed, etc, it will skew the results. A good friend tells me that a Bonanza annual will run 2 to 3 times more than a Mooney. I find that hard to believe. Look forward to replies.

Looking for a battery box asap if anyone has any ideas. Thanks in advance. Its for a 1978J

Hello Mooney pilots. I've been lurking the MooneySpace Forum for a few months now so I figured it was probably time to introduce myself. I earned my pilot's license in 2004 at a small airport just north of Atlanta (VPC). In 2007, I bought a 1973 Bellanca Citabria 7KCAB and brought it with my while traveling around the US in the Air Force. Me and the Citabria have spent time in Wyoming, Colorado, and most recently, Utah. I separated from the Air Force in 2015 and now call Utah home and the Citabria is hangared at U42. While the Citabria has been a fun plane and served me well as a bachelor, it's time to step up. The wife isn't really a fan of sitting for a few hours to go a couple hundred miles and the tandem seating means she is staring at the back of my balding head the entire time. In the summer, forget about leaving the Salt Lake Valley together unless we are okay to climb at 200FPM to clear the Wasatch Mountains. We have family in Wyoming so the mountains add significant challenges with getting the small bird eastbound. We would love to regularly travel towards Oregon, California, Wyoming, and occasionally back to my home state of Georgia. The Citabria is meant to fly aerobatics...not flying hundreds of miles in a straight line. I've looked at Turbo Piper Arrows, Cessna 180's, Cessna 182s, and obviously Mooney's. The Mooney is attractive because of the speed and efficiency. We do not have kids and don't really have any plans to either so the useful load shortfalls of the Mooney isn't really an issue for our type of flying. The Mooney is a stable plane but isn't something I would likely outgrow anytime soon. I plan to list the Citabria within the next 12 months and, after selling her, begin my search for the right bird, at the right price, with the right features (PS...if anybody is hunting for a second, slower airplane please let me know ;-). I've narrowed my search to the 201, 231, and 252...and I literally go back and forth daily on which one would best meet my mission profile based on price, performance, market availability, safety, etc. I'm sure everyone on this board has experienced the struggle of indecisiveness. I lean towards the M20K because of the high summer DA's we experience in SLC...with the 252 being the ultimate option; I'm not sure the 252 would fit my budget, however. A modified 231 may be my best bet. Anywho, if there are any local Mooney pilots who would like to swap time in my low/slow tail-dragger, send me a PM. I'm also interested to hear where Utah Mooney pilots service their airplanes and get training. It doesn't look like there are any Mooney Service Stations within 500 Miles...the closest being south of Phoenix, Arizona. Cheers, Trey

Looking for a serviceable battery box for a 1978 M20J.

If anyone here has, or knows of someone who has, a 1969 or newer M20F or an M20J, priced less than $75,000, they would like to sell please let me know as I am actively looking to purchase for myself.

Hi all, My father’s 1983 M20J has a problem that’s been dogging the mechanics. The gear does not retract if the airspeed is above 80 KT. The pressure switch has been replaced, and the gear will swing all day long on the jacks. Any Thoughts. Jim

Im looking for a spinner bulkhead Part number 680031-011. All the traditional sources have dried up. Any ideas? Thanks for your help.

Fellow MooneySpacers, I’ve recently completed my Commercial Pilot rating and will be flying as a corporate pilot leaving little time for my Mooney. I’m advertising N201NX for sale on Controller. Please let me know if you’re interested in procuring this fantastic airplane. Cheers, Dan Adams (585) 363-2494 Safari - Sep 30, 2017 at 16:02.pdf

Hi all. New member here. I'm currently in the market for an M20J. I found a 1978 201 with around 6000 hrs on airframe and around 850 SMOH. It's had a pretty recent paint job along with interior, and is fairly close to home. The aircraft is listed at around $85,000. The airplane is currently out of annual, but is scheduled for one in the first part of Sept. The aircraft is being sold by a dealer, and annualled by a mechanic who works for the dealer. I haven't purchased an. aircraft since the 70's, so i am far from being an experienced buyer. Would it be reasonable and prudent to have a mechanic of my choice do a Prebuy inspection while the airplane is in it's annual? Can anybody recommend an experienced Mooney mechanic in or around the Sacramento area that could perform a prebuy? Thanks! Rick

For those of you who swear by your dual mags here is an excellent reminder of what can happen when you are flying behind a 40 year old single point of failure - great flying and recovery by the pilot BTW https://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=104258

For Sale: Immaculate 1978 M20J 201! Newer Paint (9 out of 10), Newer Interior (9 out of 10), All Glass Avionics, New Engine, Low Time Prop! You won't find a better value on the market for a pristine M20J 201. This is a turn key aircraft with exceptional maintenance history. Fly 150kts True Airspeed at 8.7GPH ROP!! This Aircraft won't last long as you won't find a better cared for and equipped Mooney 201 on the market. Last two owners have always hangared aircraft. Aircraft is in Arizona. I am selling the Airplane to go to a high performance airplane. This is an excellent Aircraft that I have poured a bunch of money and time into. Give me a call if you have any questions: Justin Dyster; 480-254-7627 Complete logbooks and additional pictures available at: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/642e57qb1mcyy9l/AACoHGxIg6K0GVlRZSnqDPpQa?dl=0 Trade-A-Plane: https://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?category_level1=Single+Engine+Piston&make=MOONEY&model=M20J+201&listing_id=2256517&s-type=aircraft N33YZ_Spec-Sheet_3202017.pdf

The only Mooney I've flown is my own J. So I'm not sure if this is normal or not. When I lower my gear, the plane will pitch up. Eventually once it slows the nose will come back down. I'm in the habit of pushing the yoke while the gear comes down to maintain pitch. Is this what you experience as well?

So recently, on a very long series of flights the following occurred: From LKU to MMJ, my M20J 201's auto-pilot was tracking on course to a VOR waypoint via the Garmin 530W. All of a sudden, the autopilot banked the aircraft to the right on a standard-rate turn off course nearly 60 degrees before I disengaged the autopilot to correct the course heading. I reset the FD and had the same problem. I had to turn off the autopilot all the way, wait a few minutes while hand flying in IMC, then turn the autopilot on again. It worked for the remainder of the flight. From MMJ to Lansing, IL, the autopilot worked flawlessly. From Lansing, IL to MMJ, something weird happened. First, the aircraft started a nose-down attitude and the autopilot disengaged with a beep. I went to turn the autopilot/FD back on and it would not turn on. I looked over to the circuit breaker and it was popped. Cautiously, I pushed the breaker back in and turned the autopilot back on. The autopilot now began to porpoise with the altitude hold on. It was almost like the FD was overcompensating for what it normally makes as slight adjustments in pitch and trim. I didn't seem to have any trouble with the autopilot following the nav course, but once I set the FD to hold an altitude, forget it. Up and down. Each up and down worse than the last. It was a bumpy day and I had to hand fly all the way back to New Jersey and then to Virginia. It was exhausting. Has anyone else encountered the same problems? My theory is that the pitch servo clutch finally went. At the same time, it doesn't explain the drastic turn to the right off course. Maybe that was a fluke with the FD? I've had it do that if I am flying a WAAS RNAV approach when I activate the approach data into the GPS too late. I am far more concerned about the pitch. Ideas?

Trade a Plane listing is here: https://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?listing_id=2265780 Hangared at KOBI Woodbine, NJ. I have owned N1159P for 24 years, and she flies regularly. It came out of the factory with a useful load of 907, adding technology and accessories, the UL today is 888. That's less than 20 lbs of UL, but fly a technically advanced and feature rich IFR airplane as a result. 3880 TTSN, and 1100 on a Factory Reman (roller tappets). Pretty paint (2006), the cloth interior is original, some wear, but not ratty. Some history, a bird strike on top of left wing (2013) and empennage damage after a Stearman clipped my tail feathers in 2005, while I was parked at KMIV. Never landed gear up, no hail or corrosion damage. All repair work meticulously completed by the master, Dave M at Air-Mods and Repair in Robbinsville, NJ, one of the best in the business. You won't find a better equipped panel, see the trade a plane listing for detail, N1159P is 2020 ADS-B IN/OUT ready with weather and traffic, including an on board WiFi system that extends the ADS-B data to your smart phone/tablet, Aspen MFD, Garmin MFD, 430W, GTX330, SL-30, EDM700, PMA7000, RANGR 978, and the list goes on. I'm asking $93,500, offers considered. I'm thinking of moving up after some tire kicking of my own. Happy to answer any questions, TAP has the best listing detail including logs. - Jeff 609-469-1986

I have a 1989 201 se for sale. NICE CLEAN 2 owner airplane. This Mooney is the J model you want. In tank fuel gauges,24 volt, rounded windows from factory, fold down rear seats, front seats fully adjustable with pump up lumbar support, new roller cam engine, 2900 # gross weight, complete log books, no damage history, always kept in climate controlled hanger, xcross country use only, offers considered, Check out Barnstormers

I live in Davis, CA and would like to either join or start a partnership with 1 or 2 other pilots. I would be interested in a Mooney M20C/E/F/J. I will plan on flying 60-80 hours. I am VFR rated only but will be getting IFR this year. Message me on here if you would be interested. Thanks!

WTB 1977 to 1982 ish J model. Longtime watcher, first time poster... I'm a pro pilot looking for a J that hasn't had structural damage (prop strike with subsequent overhaul ok) for a personal plane. Would prefer more than a wing leveler autopilot (nav/alt hold) with at least a Garmin 430 and decent engine times...max of $100k. It is a little before the Spring market, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Came across this just minutes ago.. Seems to have gone down 6 days ago in the Lake Hughes area which is rather rugged terrain. Sad to hear about the pilot's demise. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-body-plane-wreckage-found-angeles-national-forest-20170118-story.html

CLEAN, LOW TIME, M20J FOR SALE. 1977 Mooney M20J. $92,000 (Priced below Vref). 2477 Hr TT 375 HR SMOH by Mena AIrcraft Engines 375 Hr SNEW Hartsell Scimitar Prop White with 2 tone blue accents. Paint in good condition Blue leather interior in good condition K & N Air filter Concorde Battery New Shock discs, 2015 Annual due October, 2017 IFR due January 2018 Avionics: Garmin GNS-480 GPS/NAV/COM S-TEC 50 Autopilot with altitude hold couples to GPS with GPSS Eleictric trim GI-106 CDI EDM-700 Engine analyzer with fuel flow 2- Bose X Noise cancelling headsets Collins VHF-251 COM Collins VIR-351 NAV Collins TDR-950 Transponder Collins AMR-350 Audio Panel Sigtronics SP-400 4 place intercom w/ Music input NOTE: Yoke mounted GPS in photo not included.