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Folks, I'm pitching back into the purchase arena and have narrowed down to a 67 Mooney M20F in Ft Meyers FL. Can you provide recommended pre-buy locations? I'd like a MSC but would settle for a non-MSC if they have lots of experience working on them. Greatly appreciate any assistance Cheers,

Folks, Looking for another assist. I'm in the final stages of purchasing an M20F. Insurance says I have to have 5 hours of dual transition training. They subsequently allowed 3 hours in an M20J locally with the final 2 in my plane (manual gear). So, I'm looking for an instructor with the following (or near the following and I'd petition the insurance co.) 500 total hours 100 hours in retractable gear 25 hours in make and model I suspect they'd agree to 25 hours in a manual gear M20. Any assistance greatly appreciated. Side note: I have a friend planning to fly back with me who owns a JBar Mooney...he's not an instructor though. Heading into town on 16 May (wed), looking to complete my last two hours on Thursday, 17 May. My friend shows up on Thursday and we're hoping to depart on Friday. I know...square peg...round hole...how much harder can I make this.

Mooney M20F, Lycoming IO360-A1A I thought would put this out there for some advice & feedback. Recently I had my mechanic examine my engine and he mentioned pooling of oil and possible cylinder glazing. Cylinder glazing is a condition that occurs where oil film left on the bore "glazes" to a hard coating and can prevent optimal sealing of ring to bore. The oil here is the result of cylinder head temperatures, CHT'S, not getting hot enough to burn this oil film and. thus prevent the glazing. Optimally, he says, the CHT'S should run about 360-380 F. My engine is seeing a range of 300-320 deg F with an OAT of around 34 F. This is with cowl flaps completely closed all the way, they are closed and flush with the rest of the cowling. All cylinders are running about within 10-15 degrees of each other & measured by JPI930 engine monitor. Of course, my goal is to get these temps into the suggested range. Just wondering if anyone is running into the same issue? what temps do you typically see? Has anyone found a way for the cowl flaps to create more flow restriction? has anyone done anything with engine baffling as to affect the cooling of the engine? Thanks for any feedback. 04/19/2018 -- ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: Thanks for everyone's feedback! what a great resource! I thought I would share what led to the inspection of the cylinders and a give a clarification of the above statements. On a couple of occasions, a ramp guy took notice of a puff of white smoke when taxiing up the ramp. Curiously, I mounted a go pro camera and focused it on the exhaust to try and observe it myself and of course, it never showed up. Recently, I pulled the cowl to check a few items and noticed oil coming out between the exhaust manifold and tube flange at cylinder#4. I immediately sent it in for service and it ended up being a bad valve guide. With all that said, cylinder#4 has undergone a rebuild and will require break-in, hence, the recommended higher CHT's. After clarification and reading all the great comments, this is why he mentioned the glazing and the importance of running higher CHT's. My fault on the interpretation. Fortunately, I do not have any cylinder glazing as all cylinders. were checked at this time. For those that asked, oil consumption has been in the normal range. I have 2 years of history (about 400hrs worth) and it ranges from 0.10 to 0.15 qt/hr. This looks to be well below even what Lycoming says is normal. I found this formula in their manual Normal Oil Consumption (Qt/hr) =(0.006 * BHP * 4) / 7.4. At a BHP of 0.59, this equates to 0.19 qt / hr. Compressions are all good ranging from 77 to 80. One question I do have for all of you, When do you typically add oil? Do you wait til it gets down below the 6qt mark, or, do you add it when it is hovering just above around the 6qt mark? I have been doing to latter. I have heard that these engines typically find their happy spot and then do not vary much. I may be adding too early as it may stabilize at 6qt. Any thoughts here appreciated.

Fellow Aviators, Long time listener; first time caller... I recently took a job a long way down the road and will commute weekly. Figured it was time to move on from my local club to buy my own wings of glory. Mooneys have been the only birds I've been interested in owning personally (until of course I can afford a Falcon 2000). Wednesday I'm going to inspect and potentially purchase a 1970 M20F (Technically, an Aerostar. Am I still allowed here?) and there are a couple of questions (some important; some of trivial): - Is Positive Control is on all pre-J M20's - Anything particular about it being an Aerostar I should be aware of? - How concerned is everyone with a previous gear up landing? The engine was not overhauled; they just complied with the prop strike AD. Engine has had a little over 400hrs since the incident. The A&P that did the recent annual said the tube frame all looked good on the bottom. - Everyone seems to whine about how difficult Mooneys are to work on. Should I expect to pay a premium for repairs? Any help or opinions are appreciated! All the Best, Gren

Anyone know the part number for the metal can and shroud that go over the fuel pump and where you can buy one?

If anyone here has, or knows of someone who has, a 1969 or newer M20F or an M20J, priced less than $75,000, they would like to sell please let me know as I am actively looking to purchase for myself.

IT'S OFFICIAL. As of today I am now the proud owner of this beautiful 1967 M20 F. N9268M. It's a life long dream come true. Thanks to the previous owner Alan Basinger for his efforts in closing the sale. Also thanks to Lisa Bainter at Aero -Space Reports and AOPA and Falcon Insurance for your assistance throughout. A special thanks goes to Don Maxwell for his expertise and advice and continued great service. I'm based in Santa Monica, Ca. I Hope to meet other Mooniacs in the very near future.

Hey Gang! Just introducing myself. Newly minted private pilot (Just finished my first BFR) working on my Instrument Rating out of KSMO. 150TT 102 PIC 11.2 Complex 30 High Performance. Used to fly 4 - 7 hours a month, now I'm doing 10 - 20. Daily driver is currently a 182P but I'm patiently looking for an M20F in the 50K - 70K range which I would hanger out at KEMT. I'm curious what I should be doing in the meantime. What are the best ways to get my insurance down before I buy. Commercial License? Time in type? I found an M20C a hour or so away from my house and was curious if I did 25 hours in that if it would help with my M20F insurance rate. There's also an M20F available 2 hours flight time away if the model is more important. This website has been a great resource already. Donated a couple bucks to help keep the lights on. Cheers!

I am based at Hooks in the Houston area and have recently bought a second plane which has a RayJay turbo. I am very pleased with my purchase seems like she is going to be a really good bird. My problem is that the owner cannot locate any info on the turbo. I have never flown a turbo and do not want to "Burn it Up" first time out. The previous owner mostly flew it without turbo and so far that is what I have done as well. Here are the basics 1976 M20F and the RayJay Turbo also installed in 1976. The pilot who flew the plane down from Utah said it worked flawlessly on his flight. Any help and advice would be great. BTW - I currently have a 1/3 interest available in my other plane 1963 M20C (pictures are in my album on here) for anyone that maybe interested. I think it will be a great deal for someone looking to fly on a budget. Here is the basic details of the partnership. Upfront cost $12k for plane, $500 deposit for maintenance and owners account and around $500 for 1/3 of the insurance. Monthly cost $200 to cover hanger exp, next basic annual (due April), and next insurance pmt plus $20 and hour (dry) for any extra items that come up in annual and future upgrades/rebuilds.

I have spent the last two years tweaking this plane but I'm just not flying enough right now to keep her. So Iam listing it here first and see how it goes then maybe trade a plane. I'm listing it from work so don't have everything in front of be but here is a start I will try to update later. If you have questions please feel free to shoot me a PM. Not alway able to follow listing. Just finished annual with DonMaxwell. Also installed gtx345 ads-b in and out receive weather and traffic. Garmin 430, brittain ll auto pilot, gma 340 audio panel, JPI 830 engine monitor. Prop overhauled at annual. New cylinders, fuel injectors& lines , sky-tec start, fuel flow dividers, spider, gee bee engine baffles, exhaust pipe, donuts , tires , Sorry about inverted pics don't know how to rotate them.

Hi Guys, M20F Cruise Performance Capture.xlsx Here is a spreadsheet I used to capture performance vs the MAPA M20F stock evaluation( see link at bottom of posting). If you want to compare your ride vs a stock F fly the 3 GPS boxes, get the OAT, fill the data and post for comparison. I will post mine (data is at home) for comparison. This is also good to do pre-rigging change for comparison basis. When you are flying the GPS box, a steady hand or even better an auto-pilot with altitude hold is your friend. Also, note separate cells to capture RAM air OFF vs ON. Link to MAPA M20F evaluation: M20F_Evaluation_Report.html

The title may say it all... still educating myself on the breed. I still think I'm looking for an E, but I'd like to learn as much as I can on the unique traits of each model. For example, they built a lot of C's, but ended production of D's after a fairly brief run. I kind of wish Gordon Baxter was still around, I remember he was a real champion of Mooney and he'd probably have a lot to say (still). Thanks.

Hi, I'm looking for some Mooney specific training in the Chicago land area. Does anyone know of any good CFI's that I can get some training from? I have my PPL and need to get my complex endorsement. A CFII would be a plus as I am looking to get my instrument rating as well. Thanks! Paul

I live in Davis, CA and would like to either join or start a partnership with 1 or 2 other pilots. I would be interested in a Mooney M20C/E/F/J. I will plan on flying 60-80 hours. I am VFR rated only but will be getting IFR this year. Message me on here if you would be interested. Thanks!

I have a 1970 M20F with the standard executive audio panel. For radios I have a King KX155 and a Garmin GTN650WAAS. I am unable to use the intercom when other pilots/ATC are transmitting. You can almost hear the intercom wanting to break through but it never does. If the receiving radio is volumed low it does seem to make a bit of a different but at that point it is too quiet to hear ATC. Is this standard or am I experiencing an issue? I am new to Mooneys and this plane has been amazing but this audio issue is making it difficult to communicate internally in the plane.

New to the community and looking for some advice... I recently looked at a 1976 M20F with less than 500 SMOH and 4600 TT and asking $59K. It has out dated avionics and does not have a GPS. Would this be an advisable purchase considering the ADS-B 2020 mandate and GPS install in the near future to bring it up to the 21st Century? The airframe and power plant are solid but I expect quite a bit of more money required to be invested since it will require wiring for GPS and ADS-B Antenna. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. P.S. I do not have any Mooney experience so this would be stepping up from what I am accustomed to (C-172).

We've been looking for a small family x-country machine for a few months. Our requirements are; seats 2 reasonable sized adults plus 2 small adults, reasonable ASEL speed with a fuel burn that won't break the bank, affordable Mx, and IFR GPS (WAAS big plus). We are interested in forming/finding a partnership in Central Mississippi. I'm commercial/instrument rated in ASEL and helicopters. I was able to look at the below airplane in person earlier this week. It is located on the Mississippi Gulf Coast. (25 minute drive from my other office) The owner was very informative and easy going. We looked at the airplane and logbooks but did not fly due to time constraints. I'll admit that I spent more time on the airplane than the logbooks... My big conserns are the engine and prop. I'm going to do a good logbook scrub and fly the airplane before take it to a MSC for a PPI. Would any of you Mooney owners be able to add to the notes taken below? What's a good ballpark figure for this airplane? 66Y M20F N9621M 4,000 hour total time 790 hours since the engine was overhauled by Western Skyways Inc to “Factory new tolerances” in 2005. PROs G430W G500 All movable controls move easily (did not check gear) Little to no play in flight control surfaces Hanger since "$10,000" annual several years ago May 2016 Annual 2 year old battery box and gel battery New vacuumed pump Neutral New fuel bladders Autopilot without altitude hold 25 hour oil change/50 hour oil and filter CONs Approximately 50 hours on engine in last 18 months "Hub grease" on downward inboard side of the prop (sticky to touch) Dent on right wing (pictures below) Some corrosion found on landing gear door linkages, under wing, and step (pictures below) No aftermarket engine analyzer No ADSB Xpondr No sholder harness New STC'd nose wheel Right main rust Right wing rust Left main rust Right wing dent

Hi all, With the birth of my daughter and the sale of my 2-place, I'm looking to join the Mooney club. I really have my heart set on a stretched fuselage, but my budget is too tight for an M20J at sub $55k. Therefore I'm looking for an F. I'm talking to a few guys who have their planes listed on Barnstormers/Trade-a-plane/Controller etc but figured I'd put this up here in case anyone is on the fence about selling. Knowing my price is low, I'm not too picky. I'm mostly looking for a functional plane with a decent engine. Must haves are: - Sub 1000 SMOH on engine with overhaul in the last 15 years. - No recent fuel leak history or tanks recently resealed / bladders. - No corrosion or airworthiness issues. - IFR panel (e.g. 2xVOR, 2xCOM, Loc/GS required at a minimum) Nice to haves: - T-panel - Electric retracts (not sure if manual is even an option on the F?) - Autopilot with alt hold and tracking You can reply / PM me here, or e-mail me at jbetker -at- gmail.com

FOR Sale: Hartzell Top Prop and Composite Spinner including logbook and all accompanying documentation. For M20 A-G. TTSN 65.3 (2400 TBO) and in excellent condition. Installed in December 2015 and removed in Sept 2016. This prop was on our new-to-us M20E and was incredibly smooth for a two-bladed prop; there were / are no issues with it whatsoever. The prop's model number is HC C2YR 1BFP/7497 PRICE: $7450, shipping included (Lower 48). These kits can be bought new excluding shipping for about $9400 from Hartzell or $8400 from a dealer. The prop itself can be used on a J model but it appears a different spinner is needed. Please message me via this site or call (360) 281-7022 with questions or to request additional photos.

So I've started researching across the various M20 models, as I comtemplate aircraft ownership at some point down the road. From most reading, it seems the general consensus is flying/handling characteristics are relatively consistent across the models, with speed and goodies being the biggest differentiators. I ran across this model comparison and was quite surprised at the range difference noted (300nm) between and F and a J. I know Roy L did a number of aero mods to the J but wanted to ask the experts whether this is real world for range b/t the two models? For equivalent range, it says the F would burn a bit over 23 gals of additional fuel with effectively the same GW and UL. Seems considerably higher than I would have imagined. Thoughts? http://www.lasar.com/userfiles/file/mooney-model-comparison.pdf

About time for AD75-23-04 on my m20 F. Looks to be model #M20-190A. Any recommendations as to where would be the best place to send the unit? I'm in North Carolina. It looks like the work could be done by a knowledgeable msc. My mechanic will remove and replace but not familiar enough to do the inspection . Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Need to change mine and thinking of Planepower. Looking for model # and thoughts. I have LED landing light but the nav/strobes/etc are over powering the load a bit and I am having some other issues with existing so just want to replace it with a new one.

1971 M20F PROJECT. Fuselage, Empennage, Wing, flaps, ailerons, gear, new engine mount, new front windshield, new firewall , other misc. parts. Note wing has some damage. Call Sign: N9620V Located: Port Saint Lucie, FL Price: $10,000 O.B.O Please contact me calling,text , or email. Robert Morgan captmorgan6216@gmail.com 336-408-9538

Exact plane is still TBD though a couple options are being looked at, but looking for an interested party for a partnership in a mid body Mooney. PM for me information.

Two videos of our flyaway with some friends in April this year. The first one is from inside of the cockpit and doesn't show much of the outside. It has radio work, etc. https://youtu.be/VacC9aNIFW4 The second one is a low level flight to a fuel stop en-route on the second day: https://youtu.be/vGYeEpag2Mo Please hit LIKE if you like them Sorry about the quality. I thought I had figured out this gopro to youtube stuff, etc but I guess not Tony