Bob_Belville

I'm not an A&P but I have a SureFly in my E and I'd say your C, assuming the battery is practically right below the left mag, should be a very easy install.

1/2 day. Pretty easy. Biggest task is running a wire from the battery to the SIM. (If the plane is a C with the battery on the firewall even easier.) If there's a electronic tach and it's tapped into the left mag it would get moved to the remaining mag.

My bad. Spelling was from memory, not a good idea. Edited above. (And as pointed out above the difference between "N" and "P" deals with the difference in the set off dimension caused by the IC. My M20E had shower of sparks not impulse couple so it got the "N".)

Agree with @steingar. Better to put a 696 or 796 portable on the right on a swivel mount and put an IPad on the right yoke. I use a magnetic ball mount and a full size IPad. VID_20190324_122724276.mp4

I installed the Surefly SIM4N several months ago and I like it a lot. I think it's a big improvement over mags. My installation was done by @AGL Aviationat KMRN. Lynn has installed several Surefly EIS now as well as other brands of EI. He expects to install a good many more Surefly.

CO is a silent killer, mufflers need to be repaired or replaced whenever they’re found to be failing. They will not heal themselves. Skimp somewhere else. You’re unlikely to be as lucky as Dan Bass when you pass out... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

My system, I do not have a turbo so do not use O2 that often, is a 24 cu ft SkyOx and 2 150 cu ft tanks which I own and exchange at Airgas as needed. After the initial cost - buying the equipment - O2 costs me maybe $20 per year including filling someone else's tank now and then.

Paul, I may be wrong, JPI records time but it might not be from GTN. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

JPI does get time, position, and Ground Speed from the GTN. Is there some way to combine that with the flight data that's recorded by G. Pilot which shows in Flight Log and can be uploaded to CloudAhoy and other apps?

Not exactly on topic but I was told by JPI at KOSH that Garmin tried to buy JPI, a private company, and ever since JPI declined to be acquired Garmin has been playing hard ball. My question was about why I could get engine info from the 930 into the GTN 750 for display and for sharing with Garmin Pilot which would in turn get it to CloudAhoy. While there's a RS 232 connection between the 750 and the 930 and the JPI receives GPS info including ground speed, Garmin won't permit what I'd like and what JPI could provide. I don't know what would be involved technically. Of course this is JPI point of view.

Of course you do, John!

The airport hosted an AOPA fly-in i few years ago. Plenty of parking space, not all on pavement.

Erik, my information would have to be considered hearsay but it has been pretty common knowledge for months - stuff like outsourcing painting to Longview, and when the plane returns to Kerrville for panel and interior the paint gets damaged so it's then back to Longview for paint touchup,... it's taking 6000+ man-hours to build a plane, even so there are fit and finish issues, ergo the Chinese fire drill label.

From what I hear, second hand, is that sad as it sounds, Premier and the other sales folks have been able to sell whatever the factory could get out the door. I suspect that the last long shutdown during which only 9 (or 11?) heroic employees - Mike Miles, Frank Crawford , Stacey Ellis - were wearing many hats and keeping the company alive, albeit on life support, meant that cranking back up involved hiring more green employees than calling back old hands. The result... a Chinese fire drill, a phrase that I suspect is no longer polite.

Thanks for your informed reply. You may well be right and I'm badly out of in touch. Are the other players, Cessna, Piper, Beech,... planning on adding chutes? Those companies have been at least as hard hit by Cirrus as Mooney and would be about as close to shutting their doors as Mooney except that they've expanded into Jet A burners? Would you think the attitudes you see in your students are similar to the class of, what I'd assume are licensed, more astute, buyers of their own (next) airplane?

Jim Price says that LASAR says that they were told by a Mooney manager that the shutdown/furlough is temporary. GM used to close down plants every year to retool for new models... they, along with many of their vendors, also were closed down for weeks by a labor strike. Perhaps the biggest difference is that GM does a better job communicating to their constituencies.

BTW, some of you probably have noticed that Jim Price, co-founder of Mooney Flyer, has posted on FB that a Kerrville manager told the owner of LASAR that the furlough was temporary while a restructuring is implemented. As I suggested several days ago istm we'd do well to wait to see what the facts are.

Byron, surely Mooney as well as Beech, Piper, Cessna,... have done market research to understand why an upstart has been so successful. I am not privy to that data. And I don't think that those of you who credit their domination off the market with the innovation of the chute know the complete story either. I think your much repeated sales numbers is a valid piece of information. But it is an outcome. The causes of which is a more interesting question and surely pounding on the chute is simplistic.

Fair enough. My bad, I should know better. Of course it's his logic not his English that I take exception to...

I bought 2 150 scf tanks from Airgas. As necessary I swap my emptier ta k for a full one for about $25. Since the tanks are stamped Airgas the tank I get will be in date. A third tank in the cascade would get my portable tank a little fuller on average but since I'm flying a na M20E I don't use a lot of O2 and I do not exchange a tank more than once per year even though I fill a portable tank for other pilots now and then. With this system O2 is almost free.

Wow, just wow!

Since I have a GTN 750 and a stand alone WX900 rather than a WX500. I agree that decluttering is good. I also have a 696 portable and an IPad running GPilot. While Chris uses the 2nd the Aspen screen for "weather, traffic, TFRs, stormscope", with my setup, weather info is on the 750, the 696, and the IPad. Traffic is on the PFD, the 750, and the IPad, TFRs are on the 750, the 696(?), and the IPad(?), and the WX 900 Stormscope has its own display.

Paul, thanks for the recommendation, I hope to meet @DRJ78 when he comes to @AGL Aviation. Thanks to you and several other MS friends, Lynn and Tamara are helping a lot of old and new Mooney owners. I meet 1st time customers every week. As you probably know, in NC it's Morganton. In WV it's Morgantown. Morgantown is the home of West Virginia University and is a larger small city than Morganton (31,000 to 17,000) though our county and the metro statistical area is larger than Morgantown's (365,000 to 130,000). AGL is at KMRN, a really nice airport with a 5,500' runway with good, clear instrument approaches and a very helpful FBO. It is the closest airport to the NC mountain areas of Boone, Blowing Rock, the summer retreats, and the ski areas that is large enough for business jets.

I'm have had a problem justifying a 2nd Aspen. It doesn't help that Robbie at Twin Lakes Avionics does not think I need it. I realize it would provide reversion backup and allow the removal of the steam ASI, Altimeter... but I kinda like those analog displays.

Urs, IMNSHO your generalizations are as bad as your spelling/spell check/typing! On the occasion of receiving the FAA's longevity award at the recent Mooney Summit I pointed out to that great assembly of safety conscience Mooney pilots, most of whom had their (flying) spouse with them, that my flying "career" began when my young bride, she was 23 at the time, gave me a learn-to-fly starter pack - 2 hours of instruction and a couple of books recommended by the flight school - for Xmas (1968). At the time Nancy was a stay at home mom with our 17 month old daughter. I do not think she'd ever been in any plane smaller than a Martin 404. And I do not believe that Nancy's attitude then and now is unique or even rare. Millions of people would love to fly even though they probably know there's some level of risk. I suspect most folks would be more interested in the pilot's experience than in the airplane's equipment. That some other non-pilots have an irrational fear of flying I do not doubt, flying is not everyone's cup of tea. But I don't believe for one minute that a parachute makes a scaredy cat who tenses up whenever there's a little turbulence into a confident passenger ready to take off into a 300' ceiling "knowing" that the 'chute makes everything okay. That's silly. Mooney has numerous challenges - sales, marketing, manufacturing, management, cultural issues (TX & China), etc., etc. Exactly zero of their problems would disappear if only their new products have a 'chute.