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Hi, looks like my M20F's air intake duct will also need to be replaced soon. Any leads on where to source one? I have posted the same question on the main mooneyspace thread, apologies for duplication.

Hi ! any success in building a replacement part? Any news where I could get one of these? Mine is soon going to fall apart. Thanks!

thanks for the lead! unfortunately all gone, will keep looking

looks like I am in the need of that famous duct as well! anyone know who to call ?

my situation exactly, the original threads are damaged , the original eyes drop out, and I want to fit the Lasar ones. A repair using a helicoil repair kit has been suggested . I am based in Europe so need to source the correct helicoil kit. Should I look for 5/16-18 or 3/8-18 as suggested above?

sounds indeed like it is exactly what I am after! thanks! one thing reading through the docs is not completely clear. - can the 30C be primary for RPM and MAP , not just the 30P? - In this case RPM and MAP take two indication spots each if displayed - am I obliged to have all current instruments displayed on the same page or can they go on the second page? To be clear , do I need oil temp, pressure, cht, left and right tanks, amps , fuel pressure, all on page one to keep primary status, or is having some on page two ok and they pop up if certain limits are reached?

thinking of re-jigging my copilot panel and came across this thread. I thinking of getting rid of the original 6 engine gauges cluster. I am reasonably happy with my EDM730 but fed up with the 1980s VCR user interface, so thinking of not going full JPI. I don't want to go EDM900 and have to re-do all the probes (there is a hangar elves workaround... I know) and also get dependent on one single instrument, so I am thinking of maybe adding a CGC30C to replace the cluster , and possibly the original gauge and existing EI RPM . The idea would be to put the EDM where the cluster is, and re arrange the other stuff, maybe putting in the CGR where the EDM is so it is right in my scan, and Strikefinder next to it. I had the panels laser cut so have all the CAD templates and can do a bunch of that myself. I have RPM and MAP already on the 730, ie converted to an 830 , but non primary and haven't been able to make these work reliably, need to check the connections. I quite like the idea of keeping the EDM for EGT/CHT, and just having one CGR for the other stuff. What does everyone think? What happens with the fuel senders? Can I use the original ones (for now?) or do I have to go CIES (which is great but a lot of work)? Can I switch to CIES later? There is also the Garmin EIS option....

these are the four choices you get when looking at IO360-A1A in the Airpower factory engines website and the same the Lycoming distributor here in Europe referred to before finalising a quote. What is odd is all these refer to the M20E and I cannot find a reference to M20F on any site.

thanks carusoam, the M20F was just coming out of annual and us earthlings out of covid lockdown, so was looking forward to flying again soon..... unfortunately it is OH time!

IO-360-A1A Y ENPL-RT8591 IO-360-A1A Y ENPL-RT8668 IO-360-A1A Y ENPL-RT8990 IO-360-A1A Y ENPL-RT10441 Any ideas which one of these IO360A1A applies to a 1967 Mooney M20F ? I have Slick mags and had a generator, now Planepower alternator. Inspection found a completely worn cam lobe, which is annoying but I guess somewhat expected after 21 years (and 1800hrs). Looking at overhaul options, exchange not an option as my engine is over 36 years (1973), but if I pick a Factory Rebuilt I may still get core credit.

OK there are a few threads on this already. My quick take on what I've read so far: the PCU is great and some older governors sometimes end up costing more to overhaul (eg Garwin). However the Hartzell ones are pretty simple and mine has been working OK. Also, it seems the PCU has a 7 year overhaul recommended timespan from a quick look at their docs (I am based in Europe and they tend to impose recommendations as requirements). Looks like the PCU costs double than a standard o/h on mine (factoring shipping and taxes to Europe), so what I will do is get a firm quote for oh on mine, and if nothing more is required, go down that route. If it ends up needing more stuff done, perhaps PCU. I have a bit of time as the engine now has to go for overhaul. Any further comments welcome!

Hi! Unfortunately a worn cam lobe has triggered an overhaul of my 47 year old engine (IO360A1A 1800hrs, 21 years since oh) on my 1967 M20F. I have a Hartzell D1-6 governor driving a 3 blade Hartzell, last o/h at the same time as the engine. Shall I buy the PCU5000 or overhaul my D1-6 ?

I have a Strikefinder in my 1967 M20F but it needs to be as close as possible to the centre stack otherwise it doesn't fit as there is a steel bar from the cage structure that goes diagonally across and interferes with the long Strikefinder body. You also have to watch out for the control column. I also had my unit overhauled by Insight and they were very helpful. They usually want the antenna shipped with it as well.

what about the baggage door strut?

I assume that quote includes the two G5s ? The HSI is indeed more work than AI only. A single G5 as AI is a much easier install and shouldn’t be too much work, probably half the labour of the hsi installation? I don’t have the breakdown of what it cost to install mine, but I kept my old mechanical HSI for that reason, as my budget didn’t stretch to two G5s, although there are significant advantages of having both.

not the folding one which I think is M20C, but sliding one, ie a slightly thinner one that locks into place inside a slightly wider one when fully extended. Mine I think is beyond repair and has tried to decapitate me too many times.

hi do you have the baggage door strut?

I bought a slightly better model than the domestic ones but still think I should have bought one a bit better still, one with a display. Mine is a small Artic model available in the UK around $70, that beeps from 30ppm, no display. It fulfilled its purpose nonetheless!

ok so they can remanufacture the muffler as well, great , I did that with the exhaust

My new CO detector started going pretty bezerk recently so thought I'd have the muffler checked. It is cracked and has several holes, so not salvageable.... I guess the new CO detector was worth purchasing! I have the ball stud type muffler on my 1967 M20F... any recommendations on replacement? Should I go Powerflow? The exhaust itself is OK, overhauled by Dawley a couple years ago.

my front seat shoulder harnesses were validated by the Danish CAA a while back and you should be able to grandfather that. Drop me your email and I ll scan what I have.

sorry KY97 has been sold

the power settings I always use are key number 47 (rpm+map=47 so 22+2500 or 23.5/23.5 lower or 26/2100 higher), ram air on, I get 33 litres an hour at peak/or tiny lop which is 8.7 gal/hr, and always get 141/143kts between 7000 and 11000ft density altitude. A litre less per 1k higher or more lower works out roughly the same EGTs. Dialing in more fuel and rpm gives me a few more knots (maybe 3 or 4 ?) for significantly more fuel flow , leaning more LOP I lose more knots. So that's what I have been using for the past decade and 1000+ hrs and it seems very happy there and super efficient, CHTs always the same too , 295/330/335/310 give or take a couple degrees. I sent my downloads to Gami and they told me my stock injectors are already well balanced, credit to them. I did six 2h30/3h flights this past week across France, what a nice stable efficient travelling machine the Mooney is!

here is my current panel

Great point, but already got one of those too (MH O2 system), been regularly using O2 for fifteen years, best investment I made in my IFR flying since GPS I think, especially as the Mooney is quite happy in the mid teens despite being normally aspirated. One of my regular flights is a late afternoon / early evening flight on a Friday for 2h30 to 3hrs, usually at 9 to 10k, I used to arrive exhausted especially after a busy work week, now actually feel more refreshed when I arrive in time for a great dinner! I have an O2 cylinder in the hangar and do my own refills. Darn... no no brainer upgrades then... got most of them... new kitchen will have to go ahead then... What's the verdict on the single piece windshield from the early 70s Fs (ie not the 201 one). Easier cheaper to install, keep the inspection panels, but not sure if there is any great benefit and if it looks any better.