nathan lively

The guy I flew with purchased his prior to finishing his PPL. Was the motivation he need to push through and complete it so he could go fly his aircraft.

I did and that's why I put an offer on a Sundowner when I found out the M20F wouldn't work and moved away from the 33A after the price increase. I just wanted to share the plane I was asking all the questions about with the group and the reason why I hadn't before

It put the price outside what I was willing to pay for the aircraft that I knew full well it would need 60k worth of work in the next 2 years. That's when I found the Mooney lol

Yeah I asked at BT and on the facebook group if I should be worried about the 27k hours airframe. With in 12 hours of me posting my question price increased almost 8k was 32k when I asked. lol

BTW this was the aircraft I was looking at https://www.howardaircraft.com/inventory/?/listings/aircraft/for-sale/27598699/1967-mooney-m20f-exec-21?dlr=1&pcid=1209710&sfc=0&lo=2&snai=0&title=Piston+Single+Aircrafts I didn't want to cause the price to inflate while I was trying to figure out if it was going to fit. Had that happen with a high time ex Airline Training F33A. https://barnstormers.com/classified_1433034_1989+Bonanza+F-33A+%2440%2C216.html

So I took a flight in a M20C Ranger today. I really like the aircraft but its not going to fit the wife and I in a way she would be happy. We need more room than the M20 offers. So I put an offer in on a Sunny D that I know will fit me, the wife, and our mission only at a slower speed. Thanks again for all your help, and happy flying!

That is correct, I could have worded that better....

So a buddy of mine put in contact with a M20C Ranger owner. He is going to show me around the plane and I'll see if I am in fact comfortable in the airplane. If all goes well and the plane is still on the market tomorrow, I'll be putting money down on it. Thanks for all your help, its greatly appreciated.

Uavionics light was always my plan as they are now approved for certified aircraft Would use a portable ADSB in is my preferred source as its easy to upgrade.

Just saying its a plus I'm ok without either.

I prefer the cheaper acquisition cost on a good aircraft. Just my $0.02 The aircraft also has a 330 and 530 no WAAS which is a nice bonus from my perspective.

Did my IFR and Multi engine in an aircraft with an auto pilot. I think I'm a weird one that's not the biggest fan of them. Made the long flights kinda boring. Just my opinion....

Hmmm didn't realize their spare was that drastically different. May warrant a second look if this one doesn't pan out.

PM sent about the aircraft I'm looking at.

I've seen the way Piper does their spares and I'm not willing to put my faith in them. I know they have a good track record but I prefer a beefier spar than what they build.

Just sent you a PM with the aircraft information

Not limited to 40k would just like to stay closer to it. Found a good looking F for 46.5 with a mid time engine and Garmin Avionics but no auto pilot.

They are really nice but I'm trying to stay as close to 40k as possible. Would like to be able to fly the plane I buy without breaking the bank.

I'm not to worried about range. The wife can't sit for to long without stretching due to Lupus. With friends, it would only be short trips of 1.5 with .5 reserve. @ steingar Yes a skylane would fit the bill, but you would be surprised to learn that most have a 1k lbs useful load or less. They also are really over priced right now, need to spend close to 80k for a good one.

Thanks for all the input, its made me more comfortable with the idea of getting a Mooney. To be honest I prefer the sports car feel compared to the SUV feel. So I believe the Mooney will fit me nicely. I'm now digging into the POH for the M20F so I will likely have more questions soon. @Marauder I'll likely PM you directly tonight or tomorrow, thanks for your insight! @eman1200 I live in Balimtore and I will be hangering my aircraft at KMTN

I'm looking to purchase my first aircraft and I have been all over the map on the type I want to buy. I originally was leaning toward Bonanza 35s but its hard to find a '60 (for loan purposes) or newer model that doesn't need a lot of work or is 65K+ I also want to keep the maintenance and insurance cost as low as possible. On top of that I want some speed at an economical rate and the ability to take friends on short trips. The useful load is important to me and the Bonanza fleet is lacking in this area. I have found promising Bos but find out they have a useful load of 800lbs. The wife and I have some friends that weight a decent amount so the 800lbs is about 150lbs short of what I need to carry them and fly for 1.5 with .5 reserve. Though the M20s have a "smaller" cabin, they would allow me hit all of my requirements while only giving up head room in the cabin. I have found a M20F that has a useful load of 1050lbs and is well equipped and in my price range. So the question I have for the group comes from a place where I don't know much about Mooneys, I have yet to sit in one (plan to fix that in the next day or two), and I'm 6ft tall and 180lbs. - For those of you about my size, do you have any issues being comfortable in the cabin? I also like my rudder peddles really close to me, a trick I learned from flying twins. - With a smaller engine and fairly simple design, how much does the maintenance cost typically run and what things should I be looking out for? - I really like the idea of the J-bar gear, what items with the gear should I look at to be replaced or require closer investigation? - Is the flaps run by an electric motor, and if so how reliable is it? - How well do the M20s do on grass fields? Something I would like to have the ability to do. - I've seen the M20s have a wet wing but also recall that some have bladders. Does it depend on the model and year? - With the M20s being narrower in the engine compartment is there any over heating issues similar to the Grumman AA-5 line of aircraft? - Any books or places to go you guys would recommend for me to do more research? I've done a ton of research on the Bos and feel behind on the learning curve for the M20 series. Hopefully I didn't open too big a can of worms and I greatly appreciate any help you all provide!