Aerodon

Mark, If you have a 'bank' of temperatures that drift in unison, I suspect an instrument problem. Can you send me a data file please? We should try verify the problem, then just send it in for repair. Aerodon supercub180@gmail.com

David, I went back and read the rules about 'stomping' on other peoples listings on Beechtalk. Basically any negative comments on condition or pricing which may negatively impact someone else advert are not allowed in the Classified section. Neither are positive comments allowed. So its not really one sided although it might appear so. But post a thread on one of the other sections its free game. I realize that this is not Beechtalk, so I won't take offence on these comments on Mooneyspace. Neither does Mike by the way, so all is good. Paul, Appreciate the concern for others, but your warning applies to the purchase of pretty decent airworthy airplanes too. Just about any airplane purchase will result in catching up with maintenance, some upgrades, some things that will break just because the plane is pressed back into regular service, etc. Its dead easy to buy a plane for $50k and then need another $30k over the next two years. But this is a different subject, should be in a different forum IMO. Don

Is it just me, or are some of the comments above a bit disrespectful? I thought it was bad taste to criticize asking price? Or make comments about what you think you saw it sell before for? For the right person, this is a deal. There are guys out there looking for projects, others looking for a wing, someone looking for a cowl etc. If its not for you, or you think it will cost too much to restore, just keep quiet and move on. I bought a C150 'project' with a new taildragger kit in far 'worse' condition - look at it now. It made as much financial sense as buying a $5 coffee, but its been a lot of fun. Aerodon

No disrespect, but have you tried it? You are correct, there's less than $100 worth of 2024-T3 in a panel, its all in the CAD and machine time. And then some more for painting and labelling. I've got about 40-50 hours into my Mooney panel drawing alone, and thats using a good library of 'shapes' for things like HSI's, altimeters etc. Then at least 5 trial runs on a CNC machine before I had a panel that met my standards. Iterations are required to catch errors, make major layout changes when things don't look right, make minor changes to get instruments, switches and screws to fit. And of course check that it fits into the airplane without interference. Add in finding a 120t press to bend the bottom edge with a 1/2" radius. Then finding a good paint and primer system. I haven't even got to engraving the lables yet, but the closer you get to completion, the more time and cost you have in the panel, and good luck in getting the local engraving shop to get it right the first time. Aerodon

don't you need to keep your VSI? Don

I've revised the mounts slightly. Included the pilot holes to mark the corners of the panel for cutting, and moved the mounting holes around to give 1.5D minimum material around the holes (on the mount and the panel). The mount fits between instruments on a Mooney, and above an HSI if installed. Aerodon

I'd look at the max pulse / maxdim replacement units. Gives you a chance to get rid of some old wiring, with correct paperwork and replace with modern technology. Don

And I've also gone the other way and put together packages like this: GTX345 with built in encoder GNS480/GNS530/GTN750 I highly recommend the built in encoder - it reduces the amount of cross wiring, and you will save a lot of money in the long run with calibrations. And I highly recommend the GTX345 for all its features and its long term compatibility. But it is going to be a $6k installation, who would have though a few years ago we would be taking about $6k transponder installations. Don

nfonville, I have recently installed a GTX33ES with a GNS480. Even though its a remote unit, I used the flat tray and installed it in the RHS stack in a C172, and it gets covered by the RHS overlay. It's a little triangle of wires: Arinc and RS232 wires between the GKNS480 and GTX33ES. Encoder to GNS480 for altitude Encoder to GTX33ES for altidude GTX33 to audio panel and power and ground. I used a transcal encoder with 2 serial outputs, and powered it from the GTX33ES for a nice easy install. I used the old transponder antenna, but installed new RG400. A already had a GLDL39-3D for ADSB in. I have a spare GTX33ES if you are interested, and would take your GTX327 in trade. And I would recommend this setup if you want to stay in the $2-3k range installed (with some of your own time). Don

Now that TJ has sold his 730, here is another one with the latest software. $1200 outright $1000 with working EDM700 in trade I have all the parts in hand to make this into a full system, just contact me and let me know what you have installed. Don supercub180@gmail.com

Yes the 730/830/4/6 is all the same display. It will recognize the transducers installed, and forget the FF transducer if you don't have the FF switch installed. It will recognize 4/6 cylinders automatically, but you have to set the #cylinders so that RPM reads correctly. Aerodon

TJ, I have the remaining parts in stock to make your system complete. Don

Busy replacing 4 with CiES for a customer now, may have some working ones coming out. Interfacing to EDM900, so should be good. Aerodon

A little overstated. Highest time DC3 - 91,000 hours. 747 - around 135,000 hours. I remember reading about Braniff's 747 spent 10 years of its first 12 in the air. 20,000 hour 172's and Cherokees are not unheard of. 7000 hours should not be an issue, but a lot can happen in that time. Rather than making mundane statements about design flaws, I have no doubt this accident will be thoroughly unwrapped, and we will all learn from it. IMO, Cessna has done a good thing with the SIDS inspections, and I can see similar inspections being applied to other manufacturers. Aerodon

Try a few starts, or start again, do a 'reset limits' and see if that helps. Aerodon

Oh, I would't count on the manual matching the software / hardware. The later model EDM700's also had a RPM display, so would need the option to set the number of cylinders to match the mag/rpm setup. I don't have one on the bench to test right now, but I can assure you that I have seen numerous different setup lists, and sometimes some weird behaviour. More than once I have taken the trouble to send documentation 'errors' to JPI to forward to their document control, and yet the errors persist in subsequent prints. Aerodon.

Iain, I see you still have it on the bench - you need to plug it into a 6 cylinder harness and then it will recognize all 6 cylinders. Don

Iain, don’t give up yet. It might take three or four power cycles to recognize the 6 cylinders. And try putting the FF switch in different positions before powering up. Finally, get into the second level of programming (factory limits), and see if there is a 4/6 cylinder setting like the EDM800’s. Aerodon

And I have a couple of EDM700/800's that I could sell at a very reasonable price. I assume you have wiring in place, just check that it is JPI and not EI? Don

Brad, I think Rev 2.0 pictured above will fit - I can send the template to you to try. I'd like to leave a bit more material around the 6 mounting holes, but it does meet the specs that Garmin call out in the installation manual. Remember that the final is made out of 0.093, so its pretty sturdy. The hard part will be cutting the rectangular hole. Also, remember that this plate is about 3/8-1/2" behind the panel, so i don't think it will interfere with the NuLites. Don

Warren, You neglected to tell us this was the AOPA giveaway plane in 2001. Nice, how about the panel pictures, I'm sure its nice. Your sack is still very capable, heres what I would do and why: 1) replace GX60 with a GNS480 to get WAAS. The comm connector is identical, and depending on your indicator, most of the nav will be the same too. Lots of labour saving, and it will cross talk with your SL30. Sell your GX60 while it still has a good screen. 2) Replace your SL70 transponder with a GTX345 or 345R. The GNS480 will provide a position for this, and if you need a little more panel space, go for the remote version. 3) Once you start changing audio panels and mixing G530's with other avionics, you may as well start again with a GTN750. Don

I would do an Apollo SL15 audio panel / intercom now - not a big deal when interior is out, and more or less pin compatible with your KMA24. Then GTX33ES paired with your 480 to get ADSB out. Easy install if interior is out. If you have more money, then do a 345 or 345R, Aerodon

Bump this to the top. I have two systems ready to go, so can do the following combinations. Have various length antenna cables, let me know what you need. Send me an email for pictures. Aerodon supercub180@gmail.com System 1 - Used processor, used antenna (scuffed), used gasket, passes all internal tests. $2495 System 2 - Used processor, new antenna, new gasket, passes all internal tests $2950 System 3 - New processor, new antenna, new gasket. Made in 2011, never opened. $3950

And here's my EDM900 flush mount. I made all three styles - two screws above and below, two on either side, and the standard 8 hole JPI style. The JPI mount takes up a lot of space, and when you start trimming you can loose two or more mounting screws. I think I will try using the G5 style mount in the future, with the screws location chosen to match the neighbouring instruments. Aerodon

Here is Rev 2.0, I moved the 6 mounting screws closer to the G5 and trimmed the bracket to provide space for the adjacent instrument. But standard instruments can be as close as 1/4", so this might still be too big?