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Same here, I'm supposed to come down in October with couple of pilot friends to FFA, can we coordonate ?, I was thinking the weekend of 10th...

You are right, sorry did'nt meant to hijack the threat ( not sure we should use that term in an aviation forum ). If you look couple of threads down, I asked the same question couple of days ago and there were couple of interesting suggestions that I will be looking into this week, I will call them up and post my findings on both threads...

Well I kind of bought new masks and cannula last week before the latest accident, they are cheap if you already have the regulators. I also bought better oximeters with alarms today, there is actually one with a cord that I can attach to my son's finger on the back seat and I can monitor his heart rate and O2 levels, even tough I don't plan to go so high when he is with me. I have a portable tank, but ordered a small emergency tank, now I know I probably don't need it all, but all and all, it costed me less than 750$, I think my life and anyone else with me is worth more... I have never ever been higher than 15 000, but plan on going to FL200 or to the FL240 that is the max for the aircraft with a qualified instructor and with checked equipement and backup, I want to see how the Rocket with it's turbo performs at those altitudes... Any advice before I do that ?

Thanks, I saw that, but I'm on the eastern side...

Hi, Welcomed, I'm also a new Rocket owner, bought it couple of months ago, I did have issues hot starting the Rocket and it was due to fuel vapor, I followed the procedure found on this site and it works perfectly. I will be uploading my personal check list here so it might be of help to you as well. As for the engine issue, I have never had that, how many hours do you have on the engine, mine has about 170h on it now, so it is practically new and as RocketAviator said, I would really be concerned if this happend in the patern or low altitude, something you would want to have looked at. Enjoy the Rocket !!!

Hi, did'nt want to hijact the TBM thread so staring a new one. With the 2 General aviation Hypoxia related accidents In the last month, I was wondering if anyone knows a Canadian company or government/military entity in the eastern Canada, that would give hypoxia training to civilian pilots, I know it is available in the US by the FAA, but looking for the equivalent in Canada. If there is US company or entity in the Northeast that does the same thing and they are open to Canadian civilian pilots, I would be interested as well... I have done couple of Google searches, and they all seem to come up with mountain high altitude training, but not specific hypoxia chamber training, maybe I'm not searching for the right terms. Thanks

Just as a thought, I do have a Autopilot Go around button ( AP GA ), I have never used it on an actual miss approach or bounce touch and go since I do it by hand, but I have tried it in altitude and it seems to configure appropriately the trimm and pitch up the airplane.. Has anyone tried that on an actual touch and go or missed approach ?

I know we shouldn’t rely too much on the average news reporter on these kind of stories, but I was listening to CNN and Miles O'Brian who is not a no-body in these subjects and he had a good point. As we know most often, it is a sequence of events that lead to an aviation accident, not just one singular thing. If the pilot had declared an emergency, but furthermore as he was making the case, it seems also that there was some non-chalant (my opinion) work from the ATC. Pilot had said 3 times he had a problem and needed to go lower. I think the ATC guy should have been more inquisitive. Now I know hindsight is 20/20, but still, I would imagine in their training, pilots that high who say we have a problem and need to go lower should right away make ATC think of O2 problems as at least a strong possibility on the top of the list of potential reason for that request. It is a tragedy that might have been avoided if either pilot or ATC would have done a bit more... Condolences to his family.

I guess something are better left unknown or unmentioned...

well I got my Oximeters yesterday, they should have gotten them as well... It is very sad, it is probably similar to the Greek airlines accident many many years ago, they will fly on autopilot until they run out of fuel or hit something. Sad sad thing to watch happening...

Yeah, that was what I was told, with the M20K 305 Rocket that I have, I usually climb easly 1000 fpm and still stay above 120 kias, this is with both fuel tanks full ( 72 G ) and 1 or 2 passengers of around 150 lbs each. I have yet to try with 4 passengers, to see, but I'm way too by the number guy to try that over gross. I would probably put less fuel and make sure my payload is under 2900 without fuel and gross under 3200 as indicated in the Rocket POH...

wow, my panel sucks comparing to this... may I ask how much have you put into this amazing pannel ?

yeah, Money... sad to say, but it takes $$$ to buy, fuel, fly and maintain such a performance bird..

I personally ask people their weight, specially when I was flying as part of Bombardier Aeroclub, we wanted to be 150% safe, so if I didn't believe what weight they would tell me, I would find an excuse just before getting on the plane to have them step on the scale, I usually said it was for seating, which it was, but more importantly to be with in CG and gross weight. I have not done any aeroclub flight with my mooney yet, it has a lower payload capacity than the beech Sundowner I was flying before but it has more fuel capacity.. I use the Foreflight W & B, it gives you the entire flight W & B profile, so to can make sure I'm within limit...

Has anyone flown their mooney above the gross weight ?, I never have, but would be interested in the experience if one is 50 to 100 lbs over, but still with CG...

I tell people that after my divorce and sell of the house, I took my half and bought a mobile home, it has 1 room and seats 4, and it's one of the fastest mobile home in the world, at more than 420 KM/h, it goes trough a trailler park in a second or two... I enjoy just sitting in my rocket mobile home, as a car guy that has had in his life 2 Mustangs, 2 Jeeps, 2 BMW and now a Mercedes, I can say that my need for speed is no longer fulfilled on the road, but rather at a bit higher altitude... On beautiful sunny days like it was today, I feel depressed sitting in the office, instead of high above, to make things worst, my office is in a university near top of a mountain, and the usual city site seeing plane tours pass near by and I can hear the engines... Pisses me off that I'm not in my mobile home at that moment...

I love my Rocket, but I wish it had maybe another 100 lbs of available weight to carry, I find it difficult when going with friends to stay within the W&B. I have never flown it over weight, but a pilot friend was telling me that I should at least try once with 50 or 100 Lbs overweight to see how it reacts, but I'm too much by the book person to risk it...his thinking is that it is less worst to be overweight than not balanced... I don't think either is such a good idea..

I have several friends that have become professional pilots, and twin is the way to go to get noticed by the airlines. It is a completely different mission than those of us, me included that use the plane to get somewhere and not just build up hours...

good idea, I will ask tomorrow at my local pharmacy and Walmart.. I'm guessing it will work for my 8 year old son as well. I rather have one on his finger all the time if I decide to go high...

The expensive checkmate or walmart pluse oximeter ?

Hi, Am I wrong to think I don't need to buy an aviation certified Oximeter ?, just a normal one would do ?. I usually buy my stuff from aircraft spruce Canada, but their checkmate oximeter is very expensive, I was going to buy from Walmart or a pharmaceutical company, they are less than half price, but on the other hand I don't want to gamble with my life or my family life. So would a normal oximeter would work in altitude ? Thanks for advice...

At that price, I would even trough in the pilot ( me )... So that I can enjoy the travels...

I agree with all previous posts, but I would say that you can actually buy rudder pedal extenders from Mooney, I'm 5'4 and bought a M20K Rocket and before the extension, I had either the yoke in my belly or I could'nt reach the brakes, but after the 5" rudder extensions, I fit in it fine. If you buy your Mooney, give the Mooney a call, they will set you up pretty quickly. I got mine the next week after I had ordered it. I also agree the 1 door mooney seems smaller than others, I kind of miss my Beech Sundowner 2 doors high seats, but not it's speed. The nice thing about Mooney's is that you are spending less time in the plane than you would of with slower airplanes. Good hunting !!!

Not all of them come with built in O2, mine has a portable tank, which is fine and as for mask and canula, I would imagine you want to get new ones as they are cheap if you have the regulator, since it is more of a personal item ( I don't want anything that has gone in anyone else's nose )... What I find expensive is the refill, what you save in fuel by going high, you kind of spend in O2 refilling, unless you build your own refill station, something that I'm looking into right now. btw, enjoy the rocket, it sure flies fast for a civilian single piston...

thanks José,I will try the banging thing, but as for the hanger wire, would I try that from the tank top filler hole or ?. I don't know about other mooneys, but mine has a clap that makes it actually really hard to see inside of the tank... If someone has a picture of what the sender looks like, that would be awesome...