thomas1142

11 hours ago, carusoam said:

Remember what does come before paint….

Any tank stripping / reseal should be considered before painting…

Yup, both tanks were looked at and had some preventive sealing applied. I’m using Scheme Designers to help in developing a good layout. I should have something from them in three weeks or so.

Received word from my MX shop that they will fit me in prior to paint. All worked out after all. Thanks to all replies

Hi Don,

Glad this post is making the rounds again. If you are still making them or have a pair handy, I would appreciate it. I have a 1997 M20J.

Thanks

Angelos

They will have the plane for three months while I’m out of the country, that’s why I’m considering doing the annual at the same time. I just haven’t heard or read anything about their maintenance operation, plenty on their painting.

I have a reservation in early May for a paint job at Hawk Aircraft Services. My Annual is due by end of May. Thinking of having them do the annual while they have the airplane, less down time.

Has anyone used them for an annual?

Thanks

On the way back to Melbourne from Marathon. Beautiful evening.

I had to have the maintenance shop change the plugs, but I was right there ready for the next time. 

I have Tempest Fine Wire. Thank you all for the advice.

25 minutes ago, N201MKTurbo said:

Are you replacing them, or just inspecting, cleaning and gapping them? If you haven’t inspected them, how do you know they need replacing?

During Annual I was informed they performing as required, and since then I’ve been having starting issues. So…

First time changing the plugs on my 1997 J, anything special I need to know? 

Mags were removed and sent back to the shop that rebuild them. Received them yesterday and were reinstalled. I was told that “brushes” were changed out on the starting mag. 
 

Airplane started up right away, and I turned it off and waited various time lengths for restarts. All went well.

Question,  Is a 90 to 100 RPM drop acceptable for rebuilt mags?

2 hours ago, LANCECASPER said:

So at the annual it was running ok and then after you picked up the airplane you sent off the mags for the 500 hour inspection?  Was the mechanic that did the annual the one who took them off and reinstalled and timed them?  What shop did you use to do the 500 hour inspection?

The mags were taken off during the annual and sent away for the 500 inspection, then reinstalled. Same mechanic did the work. They were sent to Maxwells Magnetos, Palm Coast FL

Tried to do some trouble shooting today, couldn’t even start the engine. Normal, hot, even flooded start procedures would not work. It would turn over, cough like starting a few times, never actually starting. Really frustrated, memories from when first bought it.

On 8/29/2023 at 10:08 PM, Ragsf15e said:

Yeah I agree, I was just pointing out that he might have someone telling him it’s fine.

Nope, definitely not acceptable even though it’s within POH margins. 
 

On 8/29/2023 at 10:42 PM, N201MKTurbo said:

so it should have been functionally tested before it was sent to you.

Sounds like it they will be going back to the shop.

Thanks

Can a MX shop check both internal and external timing, or does it have to go back to the shop for internal timing adjustment?

5 minutes ago, Shadrach said:

external or internal.

???

Timing was spot on when it was checked the second time. I have an EDM 900 for engine instrumentation.
 

If they did not keep the plugs in some type of order (which I’m sure they did not since they didn5 think they would have to reinstall them), and they didn’t get the plugs in the same location that they were removed from, would that creat an issue?

A bit of background. When I first bought 30FM I had a horrible time with engine starts. Hot, cold, flooded normal start, did not matter. I was stranded three different times at a fuel stop. I was ready to sell till maintenance finally took a good look and determined that both mags were not performing correctly and one was even loose and could not hold timing. Mags were replaced and for the next five years I’ve had absolutely no problems staring under any condition .

Fast forward, I picked up 30FM from MX after its annual. It was time for the 500hr mag inspection. Did an IRAN on both. Now I have a 120RPM drop on both, before the IRAN the drop was 90-100RPM.
 

Another issue was with the spark plugs. I was told they were not performing correctly when hot. MX had a hard time starting the airplane when it was hot. For five years I had no issue. They did not have any new plugs but did have a used set that were check out as good. I said to go ahead and replace the plugs with the used ones. When I did the run up the engine ran terrible on either plugs, left or right did not matter. Replaced with original plugs and it ran as before, but with the 120RPM drop on the mags.

Question(s);

Mag drop is not acceptable for redone mags, correct?

Could the plugs be causing my issues with starting? (I had them recheck the timing)?

How do I know plugs are bad?

Any special considerations when changing plugs?

thanks

Angelos

I got lost/confused in this thread. I have 1997 M20J, and need shock disks, will this help me?

thanks

9 hours ago, buddy said:

I wish I saw this 2 wks ago, Chief aircraft was 1K more for 11. Mine are already installed.

Current price at Aircraft Spruce is $230 each. Crazy!

https://avunlimited.co/
 

Has anyone used this company for landing gear disks? It’s based in South Africa and it sees they “build” the disks as required, like an owner supplied part.

Angelos

What is it, what does it consist of? My J is due it’s 500 Mag check, it is at annual right now. Mechanic wants to send away for rebuild due to 500 hr check. Both mags check just fine during run up, 80 on Left, 100 on Right. Does anything need to be done?

Thanks

Angelos

9 hours ago, Pinecone said:

$3500 for the swap from a non-Xi.

Where is it $3500 for  750 to 750 Xi swap?

9 hours ago, 2659AU said:

@ thomas1142 ... Did you ever have a resolution to your G3X problems? We have also now had 3 Garmin units (not in our Mooney) and still no resolution after almost a year. There does seem to be a pattern associated with warmer weather. 

The problem seemed to “have resolved” itself after the third unit. Installer just kept sending the unit back to Garmin, and just like that after the third unit all was fine. I was never told what, if anything, they did to resolve the issue.

8 hours ago, carusoam said:

Angelos, painting the steed?

It’s time. I’m probably looking at the original paint scheme with a “pull” of the stripes onto the tail.