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  3. Can Altitude Hold be Added to a Century 21 Autopilot?

    in Modern Mooney Discussion

    Posted

    On 9/5/2021 at 10:00 PM, LANCECASPER said:

    I think this might be what you're looking for if you're adding it to another system. The cost doesn't make much sense anymore.

    https://sarasotaavionics.com/avionics/pss

    This what I had in my 201 with Century 21. Don't know much about the specific cost to add or installation as it was installed when I purchased the plane. It worked really well.

  5. Raptor

    in General Mooney Talk

    Posted

    Raptor is DEAD in my opinion. After all those years working on the plane, get it into somewhat of a flying condition, escapes death and what does he do? he goes and change Airframe Design and Powerplant to designs that have yet to be used in any certified or production experimental. Stupid to throw all the data gathered out the door and start from scratch. 

  13. 20k Mooney F N9554M

    in Vintage Mooneys (pre-J models)

    Posted

    If it was me, most of my attention would be on the engine, borescope to see if any corrosion is present, oil change, injector cleaning, and spark. Most are commenting on rebuilding, overhaul, IRAN's. I'm concern about your ferry permit and someone flying it back to home base. The engine probably will start and sounds good for sitting that long but can you make it out of the pattern is another thing. 

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  16. TSIO-360 Alternator Bracket

    in Modern Mooney Discussion

    Posted

    On 7/30/2018 at 8:38 PM, Bryan said:

    I have TSIO-360-SB engine with dual alternators.  During my trip to Oshkosh, I discovered my belt-driven alternator had failed.  After taking a look under the cowl, hoping for a broken belt, it appears that a bracket has broken.  Attached is a picture of the broken part.

    Upon further searching the TCM online Illustrated Parts Catalog, it appears that the part broken is either:

    • TCM 649285 : Bracket - Alternator, Rear
      or...
    • TCM 653374 : Bracket- Alternator, Front

    I cannot tell from the picture which is which because the the IPC exploded parts view with item numbers do not match the Item# in the legend. (parts drawing view).  The part I am needing is Item #52 in the drawing.  It is either one of the two parts listed above - unsure which is the Front vs. Rear.

    In either case, I searched these part numbers online and they are $2800 and $1800+ respectfully.   Really!!!, a bracket made of metal on a TCM engine cost 2-3 AMU?

    Any idea where I can source the part elsewhere?     I am even thinking of an owner produced part.  A local shop has a waterjet machine.

    IMG_1751.jpg

    What did you end up doing to get this fix?

  18. Looking for used JPI EDM 900 or 930 - I have a 700 so don't need CHT/EGT wires

    in Avionics / Parts Classifieds

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    13 hours ago, Aerodon said:

    The second alternator hangs off the back of the engine and is driven by a belt drive off the accessory case.  Then you need the second voltage regulator and all the wiring back to the circuit breaker panel.  All feasible, but probably quite expensive.  And I would imagine you could get it signed off as installing a factory option, the details are all in the writing diagrams and parts manuals.

    I have an engine that I am thinking of parting out, you could persuade me by giving me a large amount of money for the alternator, mounting brackets, accessory case (exchange) etc.  Send me a PM.

     

    Aerodon

     

     

    I have your email.

  19. Looking for used JPI EDM 900 or 930 - I have a 700 so don't need CHT/EGT wires

    in Avionics / Parts Classifieds

    Posted

    11 hours ago, carusoam said:

    Sounds like a rant...

    I can add it to the list...

    A) Gill batteries are terrible...  (hey wait... did you just buy another Gill battery..? :))

    B ) Champion spark plugs are terrible...

    C) JPI customer service is terrible....

    D) If you didn’t like the charges to reuse a technical AW related device... compare that to S-tec...

     

     

    1) JPI is known for their customer service...  we use Jeev who lives in their neighborhood... and knows the nice people at JPI...

    2) Using professionals usually pays for itself when the job is done... correctly.

    3) Getting a JPI primary instrument on the used market is a great idea... the negotiations take the re-programming into account...unless you knew exactly what you were buying... and got a JPI from a plane with the same exact engine... 

    4) Its a primary instrument, have your mechanic deliver the needed information to JPI...

    5) JPI may require that you send it to them for the update... some serial numbers are better than others...

    6) If you are going with Cies fuel level gauges,  now would be a good time to let JPI know that too...

    7) You can always sell this on CessnaSpace... and get an EI MVP....

    8) EI has really good customer service right here on MS...

    9) Minimize your mistakes, so JPI can’t take advantage of your situation...

    10) There is a lot to know when buying used equipment... some people are pretty good with this... ask Alan...

    Getting this done correctly is important for the health of that new engine...

    JPI needs to get paid as if they were selling a new device...  kind of a cat and mouse game... :)

    PP thoughts only...

    Best regards,

    -a-

    -A-, I was just being cheap and trying to avoid the charges for a second reprogram from 252 to encore conversion that's all. I currently have a UBG16 but it has been acting up so I figured "heck I have a JPI 930 let me see if I can have it installed along with the Microkit landing system" so I reached out to JPI.

     

  21. Looking for used JPI EDM 900 or 930 - I have a 700 so don't need CHT/EGT wires

    in Avionics / Parts Classifieds

    Posted

    5 minutes ago, LANCECASPER said:

    I don't believe it is possible to switch a single alternator 252 over to a dual alternator version. I had looked at a single alternator version quite a few years ago and called Mooney and they said no. I held off on buying the airplane since I wanted that redundancy. Possibly some have done it though. 

    I've been searching for pics of the dual setup just to get an idea of where the second alternator is located. I remember an old mechanic telling me that I would need to replace the whole case a couple months back. I thought that was just crazy cause if the same engine is in Gsxrpilot plane then why wont it fit in mines with same dimension, cowling etc?

  22. Looking for used JPI EDM 900 or 930 - I have a 700 so don't need CHT/EGT wires

    in Avionics / Parts Classifieds

    Posted

    21 minutes ago, gsxrpilot said:

    My point about asking who is doing the install, is that JPI as well as most manufacturers, especially as related to certificated equipment, prefer to deal with established shops rather than end customers.

    I'm not sure about the 930, but my EDM900 has non-primary readouts for Voltage - bus voltage and Amps - Load and charge/discharge. The Amp load isn't specific to the Alternator. I have two alternators in my 252/Encore. They can be selected/deselected in flight. If at least one of the alternators is on, the Amp meter on the EDM900 shows a charging state. It doesn't change if both are selected on or one is selected on. If both are off, the Amp meter shows a discharge. I have an analog gauge in the panel that shows output per alternator. But the JPI doesn't show that.

    Your absolutely right. I think also because of it being certified equipment. My beef was trying to avoid the second $500. Who knows there might not be a charge if I leave it up to the professionals. 

  23. Looking for used JPI EDM 900 or 930 - I have a 700 so don't need CHT/EGT wires

    in Avionics / Parts Classifieds

    Posted

    4 hours ago, gsxrpilot said:

    Who's doing the work for you? We just reprogramed my EDM900 because of the Encore conversion to my 252. Of course SWTA is doing the work, so JPI just sent them a file, upload it, and done.

    I understand the reprogram $500 cost going from a Cessna T210 which the box is currently setup for- to a 252 but! going from 252 to encore is a minor change definitely not worth the additional $500 for a reprogram of the RPM and Manifold pressure especially if it's as simple as an file upload.

    I definitely know I want to switch my engine from a single alternator to a dual alternator setup during the overhaul so I haven't made the decision on who will do the conversion work just yet. Is there a gauge for dual alternators on the 930?

  24. Looking for used JPI EDM 900 or 930 - I have a 700 so don't need CHT/EGT wires

    in Avionics / Parts Classifieds

    Posted

    On 3/21/2021 at 7:51 AM, LANCECASPER said:

    I bought a used JPI930 on Beechtalk from someone with a 6 cylinder Cessna who was going to pull it out and put it a G3X. I sent it into JPI to have it programmed for a Mooney M20M for $500. For what I paid plus what additional sensors I would I need I figured I would save at least $2000 so I went for it. When I sent it into JPI after some time went by I started checking on it. Finally they sent my a 930, but it was not my serial number and it was programmed for another airplane by the sticker on the back of the unit. I called and when we got to the bottom of it, mine had been shipped off to the Philippines by mistake. After realizing what they had done, that same day they programmed a brand new 930 (newer style than the one I had sent in) and did not charge me for the $500 programming/STC fee and gave me the additional sensors I needed for the M20M free of charge. They included 2 day return shipping at no charge as well and e-mailed me a label to return the one they had sent me. So I appreciate the way they took care of their mistake. That delay however cost me a time slot in an avionics shop in early 2020 and finally now just a few weeks ago I had it installed along with some other things.

    All of that being said I don't think I've ever seen another used JPI930 for sale. I've only seen one or two 900s come up for sale. You might save $1000-$2000 but sometimes it's better to let the shop sell you a new unit and then they can stand behind it.

    .I’ve been back and forth with JPI all week on reprogramming my used JPI 930, I purchased my JPI 930 years back and it came from a Cessna T210 unfortunately the unit I have can not be reprogrammed but for $500 I’ll get the newest 930. $500 to program and $220 for the RAD. $1220 out the door for a new JPI 930 with my old unit. In couple months I’m 100% going the Encore conversion as I have 90% of the required parts and that means having the 930 setup for the Encore specs. JPI is saying they will not setup the 930 to anything other than the current 252 without an STC paperwork, I got the RMA number but damn they want me to fill out a lot of info and take pictures of the 252 POH. I really don’t want to pay $500 to program and then later this year pay another $500.

     

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