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Panel updated 2012 by Twin Lakes Avionics, Advance NC features GTN 750 w FS510, GDL 88, PFD 1000Pro w AOA, SV, ADS-B, EDM 930 w RAD, CYA 100 AOA. This year it will get a new autopilot upgrading the STEC 50 to the STEC 3100. The Aspen will go MAX. Considering adding an Aspen MFD with extended battery to eliminate back up ASI, T&B, ALT, AI. Paint by Hawk Aircraft Services, Zephyrhills FL June 2018. Owner design with help from Scheme Designers. Imron with 4 metallic trim colors. (Cowl is SabreCowl by GDS Aero - David Staffeldt.)

OK, this thread has been up for over 24 hours and @Bob_Belville @Marauder and @gsxrpilot have not posted pictures of their panels on this thread. And @Bob_Belville and @aviatoreb haven't put up pictures of their new paint schemes . . . Is the internet down?

I thought I'd post a bit about my newly installed Garmin GDL52R. I previously had a GXM40 puck attached to my 796 for XM audio. And I had a GDL69 (not69A) that came with the plane that gave me XM datalink weather to my GTN's. I was having a lot of trouble with the GXM40 and the satellite signal strength. Lots of audio dropouts. This depends somewhat on where I put the puck. There appears to be something in the panel that interferes with the XM signal. The GXM40 worked fine outside the cockpit. The GDL69 was fine but it didn't display on the big screen devices, only on my GTN650's. The plan was to remove both the GXM40 and the GDL69 and replace them with the GDL52R. I don't like a bunch of things on the glareshield (another strike against the GXM40) so I elected for the remote version. A bonus here is I can used the existing external GDL69 XM antenna for the GDL52R. I was also able to use existing GDL69 wiring for the RS232 and audio connections. I have a GTX345 ADSB transponder, but I figured that an extra ADSB receiver in the GDL52R makes a good backup. The GDL52R has an RS232 hardwired connection to the 796 and does bluetooth to my iPad. Both also use bluetooth to connect to the GTX345. A big benefit of the new setup is to be able to use the newer SXM weather subscriptions compared to the legacy XM products. I flew the first trip with the new setup yesterday and so far so good. Rock solid SXM signal strength, no audio dropouts, and I'm liking the new weather products on both the iPad and 796. Larry

Just wanted to post an introduction now that I am officially a new Mooney owner!! I just closed today on my M20F and looking forward for some good weather to get my 5 hours in for insurance and be able to pick her up from Ohio. This winter is really dragging me down! While this is my first post here, I have been lurking, reading and learning a lot. I appreciate the incredible resource this website has been while I have been researching my Mooney purchase. Looking forward to learning more and hopefully sharing too. Jim

Did someone call? Someone wants to see pictures of my airplane?!! :-) paint by J&M in middlebury vt.

You landed 1o2 just a few minutes after we came home from a family visit returning from Livermore. Saw this Albatross on the ramp at LVK near where we parked

Maybe mph but not knots. That is faster than the E's with every 201 mod.

Time to put this to bed

Yesterday I clocked my 100th hour in my M20J since I bought it in July last year! My parents are visiting from New Zealand, so I decided to take them up for some sightseeing and lunch. We left Lakeport and flew down the Marin coastline, past the Golden Gate Bridge and San Francisco's Ocean Beach, and into San Carlos for a late lunch at the airport restaurant, Sky Kitchen. We parked in transient alongside a very pretty Canadian-registered Bravo, C-GNMM. After lunch we departed over Oakland, and flew a brief tour along the north side of the Bay Bridge, around Alcatraz, along the San Francisco shoreline, before getting a great view of the Golden Gate Bridge from 2,000ft. We then headed back up to Lakeport and did a lap around Clear Lake, taking in the scope of the damage that the Mendocino Complex Fires brought to Lake County last summer, before landing not long before the sun dropped behind the hills.

I was just going to post pretty much the same statement, "when their products became substandard and they kept insisting that they weren’t."

Turns out I bought this plane last summer (July, 2018). It's in decent shape overall. Engine was overhauled about 250 hours before I bought it, and some avionics updates. Had a GNS530W and a G5. Some minor hail damage, and dings/pings you'd expect from a 51 year old bird. Aside from prior owner not doing a great job with avionics upgrades and some maintenance, it's a solid flyer once I got the many, many, many squawks worked out. Knocking out the service bulletins that weren't done (none mandatory), putting in new insulation, new fuel senders, new ELT, etc, and she'll give me a good many decades. She's in for a panel overhaul as I type this, and will be getting new skin to fix the hail damage, and a paint job in the next couple of years.

here is our machine. The left side of the panel and the engine monitor need it next. We were waiting for the new plentiful and cheaper glass panels to appear.

1975 F Model. Panel restoration started 2012, completed over 3 phases. Last phase completed 2017. Circa 2000: 2013: Early 2017, planning for new layout. 2017: 2020 - ???? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

1968 M20C

I'm with @bonal on this one. There is a direct correlation between pilots who participate in things like Wings programs, IMC clubs, regular recurrent training, etc. and fewer accidents. One of the reasons I've heard discussed is that people who are conscientious enough to participate in those programs (or discussions on Mooneyspace) are often more conscientious about flying in general.

At least you didn’t hear “hey, gear up” when what your captain actually said was “hey, cheer up!”

I called Garmin Tech Support and they told me what to try and it worked. LOW GAMA 429, COMM, Disable Labels.

Our own Brian Lloyd installed one in his acro plane and its basically useless as an AOA. it uses GPS WAAS 3D data to infer an AOA but it relies heavily on pitch atttiude. As such, when you need it most, say a base to final turn, it shows a completely erroneous AOA value. I dont think it can be fixed with software. Its like an iPhone knife app. You get robbed, you open the app, it shows a knife and you attempt to stab the thief. you need real hardware, such as an AOA probe.

To close the loop on this: LASAR took a look and found that the spark plugs in cylinder 4 were oily. They didn't observe any other abnormalities in the cylinder. They cleaned, gapped, and reinstalled them. We'll be keeping an eye on this going forwards. While they were looking into this, they noticed that the engine monitor was not correctly grounded. JPI believes this may explain some of the erratic readings I'd seen. Since we had a few weeks of very wet weather here in Northern California, LASAR took that opportunity to pull the engine monitor and send it to JPI to be updated to the latest software. It was then reinstalled, with the incorrectly-wired ground addressed. Everything has looked good since then, and I've been able to download and analyze the engine data from my recent flights. In the event that I notice any more engine abnormalities we'll now have data to look at.

True, but why would you drop a $100 spark plug? Or your wife's favorite tea cup? It's okay to drop a hammer, but a hammer won't deliver forty 30,000 V sparks every second.

Joe is knowledgeable but he’s also there to sell stuff for Champion. For me, they lost my business when their products became substandard and they kept insisting that they weren’t. And Joe was one of the people insisting that spark plug resistance didn’t matter- until they changed their design. He also insists that Slick mags are just as good as Bendix, but won’t address the parts issues they’ve been having with things like coils and drive gears. Like you, I’d run them if they came with the engine, but when they needed replacing I’d buy Tempest. Nowadays when I see Joe at OSH I try not to make eye contact.

Indeed that was part of the reason for my comment. Accelerated stalls and spins are benign in a C150.

I think cirrus does a better job at reaching non pilots. Once you're in the cirrus system the ENTIRE system is designed to sell airplanes. You see an ad and think , hey I can do that. You go to a cirrus training center and train in a cirrus with cirrus standardized instructor pilots, then you buy a sr20, then you buy a sr22 then maybe a turbo, then a sf50. All along the way with CSIPs or at the cirrus factory center in knoxville. They have a very smooth flow through program to attract new pilots and keep them in the system. It's a good product and it's well supported. Why would I complain about 195 knots true at 15.5 GPH with a phenomenal panel and a comfortable interior? They're very good traveling airplanes and passengers love them. Every decision is made to sell airplanes from how many csips and cscs to where to allow them to the embark program. Cirrus seems to attract the younger tech savvy crowd as well. Not sure how they do that. Also since mooney got bought by the chinese it's never a white guy with a mustache in magazine ads, it's always an asian guy with an attractive asian lady carrying a bunch of shopping bags. #noracist #kindaracist

Too little information: 1) what antenna do you have on the tail - towel bar, two blades or cat's whiskers? There's lots of room for antenna failure, balun failure, bad terminals, combiner failure etc. 2) then probably have RG142 Co-ax - time to upgrade to RG400. 3) what radios do you have? Some have separate ILS and VOR RF connectors (KX155) and others have internal splitters and 1 RF connector (SL30). If you've had any sort of upgrade, I would check that you still have the right splitter installed. Needs to be an exact match, antenna to splitter, ILS to ILS, VOR to VOR and no empty ports. My bet is on #1 above, easy enough to get all this checked out by an avionics shop. Don

Rocket has cowl flaps

Oddity of a Missile or Rocket... during a power outage... the prop feathers... Missiles and Rockets use the K’s extended cowl. @mike_elliott landing accident, NO injuries, see News article above for additional minimal details... Just sharing the news... Best regards, -a-

So, not like this guy huh

That is exactly how mine is routed..I thought it came that way from the factory

I believe it doesn’t work well as an AOA, however, it doesn’t have any connection to a gps, waas or otherwise. It’s using the ahrs, pitot, and static. There is no gps internal or connection to external.

Call Lasar and see if they have one that will work. I received an email a couple days ago saying they are having 50% off sale on B&D and Sigmatek gauges.

Jim welcome to the Executive Club, may your cigar lighter never fail you.

Welcome to the 21st century. A few things have changed. One being the market for vintage Mooneys. Markets change year to year and month to month. Memories from years and flights gone by are less than reliable. And yes, $7000 and change will buy you a full strip and reseal for both tanks from any one of the three shops in the country that specialize in resealing Mooney tanks.

Took a couple of weeks for IRS approval. Not that hard.

The price of a J more than doubled from 1982-1985. The French owners brought in cost accountants who showed that they were losing money on each one being built. The only thing keeping the factory going was some of the contract work they were doing for other manufacturers. It's a great example of the elasticity of pricing. In 1982 they sold 113 J's and in 1985 they sold 51. The price doubled again from 1985 to 1998 and they only sold 19 in 1998.

Certificate 8/22/07 and last 3rd class med on 5/07, so could have been sitting since 2010.

I can't understand why you're even weighing in on airplanes you obviously know nothing about and are by your own admission, not interested in? Your numbers are way off and likely prejudiced by your preference for the newer, long body Mooneys. Do you even own a Mooney? Have you bought and sold Mooneys before? As just one example. Fuel tanks get resealed all the time, the price is $7K for standard tanks on a short body.

KMTH and back, tail wind in both directions. Many conch’s, claws, and tails were consumed and I became introduced to something called a Painkiller which I highly recommend.

One should use the no-wing mower for such heavy work!

Let me know where else you went and I will happily let you live vicariously through me! I had this picture printed to a canvas wrap and boy do I like how it came out. (Black TV on bottom left is a 60 inch LED - for reference)

When you add your MFD one feature I really like is adding a switch to allow the autopilot to fly either the PFD or MFD (in reversionary mode) as its source,.

The best option is to join the Mooney Caravan - get formation qualified and arrive to Oshkosh with the largest Mooney group. There is lots of support, advice, questions answered, etc. And it's by far, the easiest way to arrive in your own Mooney. The second option would be to go on your own. Sign up for EAA membership - required for camping Download and study the NOTAM - it's large and the arrival is complex and very busy Bring a friend along in the right seat, preferably another pilot, or someone with eagle vision to watch for traffic Load up the plane with all your camping gear, bring a credit card or large check book Spend the week in aviation heaven After a lifetime of wanting to go to Oshkosh, hearing ATC say "Cleared to land 36L, welcome to Oshkosh" got me just a little bit choked up. And after six trips now, I still get a little emotional turning final for OSH.

You treat your wife’s new composter like this ...

What a great day! I knew it would eventually come, it just seemed like it's been much longer than it actually was (like a dog welcoming you home as if he hasn't seen you in weeks even though you only went to the garage 2 minutes ago). While picking it up today and taxing it out I was excited and looking forward to what would be a minimum of a 3 hour flight. I relish in the fact that I enjoyed the flight today just as much as my first solo flight some 30 years ago. I like to ask people what their super power is and when they look back at me a little confused, I love to say. I can fly!

Congratulations!

Garmin is all done. They completed the project in February about two months behind schedule. I was planning on picking up in December and then January but it wasn't ready yet. This month I wanted to get it but the time frame I had available it snowed all week in the SW Washington area where I base it. The one week a year it snows in Portland and Seattle. I could have got it home but I didn't want to risk being stuck in a hotel somewhere for a couple days on the way home and trying to find a heated hangar to put it in overnight. I had been planning on doing the flight in one day. Now my plan is to pick up the Bravo the last week of March and fly to the Grand Canyon for a vacation. I will be able to put 15-20 hours on it in March and give a report. Hopefully, everything is good to go with all the testing they did.

Wow... not going to comment on this.

Last year I replaced my lower plugs with Tempest UREM37BY's (massive electrode but protruding). I replaced 12 year old Champion fine wires. I did so because after purchasing I continuously fouled the plugs. Along with learning to lean aggressively for taxiing I researched the plugs and realized a protruding electrode would be smarter because the combustion begins deeper in the cylinder and more likely thoroughly uses all of the fuel before the next stroke. I have had no problems with fouling or run-ups since replacement. Photo courtesy of google...

Hello everyone. My first question to the group though I have enjoyed reading many of the comments. I am a proud owner of a 67 F with Johnson Bar gear. NO shoulder harnesses. After losing my Attitude Gyro in the junk it got me thinking how my previous attempt at locating shoulder harnesses should be accelerated. Obviously I got down safe and sound, no thanks to the Avionics shop who royally screwed up the install on some new radios leaving the vacuum line to the AG loose, but it made me remember how quickly things can go wrong. I would love any and all information/opinions regarding which shoulder harnesses work well and are easy to install in my F. Thanks in advance for all the wonderful comments I know are forthcoming.

Cool. That pic could have been taken decades ago.