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Everyone, The folks at Sensorcon are willing to pass along a 20% discount to pilots on all of their products. At checkout use the code below. http://sensorcon.com/collections/carbon-monoxide-meters Discount code: Aircraft2021 I'm going with the "industrial" and am going to add the Pump kit. I like the vibrating alarm and the pump kit will help with troubleshooting various applications(home, aviation, boating, etc.) In my opinion, every A&P should have one in the tool box. They do recommend a calibration every 6 months. If no calibration is done they have a tendency to wander in accuracy. But only about +-2ppm. Even if you never calibrate, they will be infinitely better than the home detectors. Sensorcon said with regular calibration they are seeing some that are 5 years old that still operate properly. I think in a cockpit environment a once a year calibration is reasonable. Sensorcon may work with us on a lower calibration price also. One can calibrate on your own but would need the equipment. It might make sense to do a group buy on calibration equipment. I'll look into that down the road If you don't have good CO Detection please consider adding a high quality detector. These Sensorcon Units are a good, cost effective option. I lived though my CO poisoning experience, but I shouldn't have. These things could/will save lives. Also, feel free to share this discount code with others. I also ask that if you ever discover a CO problem down the road with a detector, share it with everyone. Online forums, airport lounges, family get togethers, etc. Lets keep the discussion going. Cheers, Dan

And herein lies the problem. It's not "almost impossible", they don't actually exist. There is no such thing as a 50 year old airplane without warts. So it's not "compromise", its reality. As long as you're looking for the perfect 50 year old plane, enjoy the search, because that's as far as you'll ever get. But if you want to own and fly, then you have to accept the reality of the market. And once you do, you'll quickly join the ranks of Mooney owners. My first C, for which I paid $48K and later sold for $50K, was missing all logs before 1987. Had been through 3 gear up landings, had a flaw in the windshield on the right side, and had some minor hail damage. But none of that affected the way it flew, it's safety, nor evidently, it's resale value. Everyone who ever saw it or flew it it was envious of my C. I certainly didn't compromise, but rather bought the best C available on the market, for a very fair price. The asking by the way, was $57K. There are no "barn finds" in this market...

Much has been said about buying and selling airplanes on this forum of late. Since I have just a bit more experience in this area than some, here's my take. Disclaimer: We're talking typical Cessna, Beech, Cirrus, Piper, Mooney, etc. Something exotic, rare or experimental is different. Most of the time you should be able to locate an airplane that meets your needs and have negotiated to buy it within 45 days. You may not have taken possession yet, but the basics have been agreed to. If it has been 90 days and you haven't found an airplane, more than likely the problem is the buyer, not the market. This is typically either a buyer that isn't really serious or a buyer that has unrealistic expectations. Most of the time you should have come to an agreement to sell an airplane within 45 days. If it has been 90 days, more than likely the problem is the seller, not the market. Almost always this is an unrealistic asking price. After 90 days it is time to change your listing from OBO (or best offer) to FIRM and drop the price $1,000 per week until it sells. That might take a week and it might take six months or more. But when the price is right, a buyer will appear. The above is assuming a serious buyer and serious seller. I'm afraid that's not always the case For my current airplane, I made contact August 21, had a signed purchase agreement on August 26 and took possession on September 3. For my airplane before my current one I made initial contact on March 28, came to an agreement to buy on April 11 and took possession on April 30. It doesn't take two freakin' years to buy an airplane !!!

What happens is the rod from the sampling cup nicks the o-ring around the piston as it's used to push the piston up. Once nicked, you have a leak and many of have found themselves grounded till they replace that small o-ring in the gascolator. You might get away with it a 100 times without damaging the o-ring and then when you have an important departure time to meet end up grounding yourself nicking the o-ring. I live in CA were we have the most stringent rules but I continue to drain the gascolator the first flight of the day and sump the tanks before every flight - regardless whether or not I take on gas. I am just not going to be that pilot that took off and missed the last chance to catch an issue with his fuel whether it be water or contamination from vandalism. It take all of a couple minutes and enables me to be checking the security of the gear, brakes and landing gear doors etc. while I do it. Yes the chances are very slim, but the consequences are to severe IMO to pass up the final opportunity to prevent a power loss on departure.

So I spoke with the shop where my plane is currently located at KARR. Their shop rate is $99/HR so I asked them to change the oil with straight 50W oil and have it ready for me to fly out tomorrow. I think I'm going to take it to Poplar Grove Airmotive 20 mins to the north. They are a good overhaul shop, and their shop rate is $70/hr. I'm going to have them pull two cylinders and we'll see where we go from there. I'll post the photos when I get them. Thanks everyone for you input, very helpful! Brian Locascio N9550M @ C56

Yesterday, I had the pleasure of transitioning a Southwest Captain in his new to him 84 J that he got for 85K. This plane was beautiful inside and out, good avionics, everything worked, flew wonderfully. He told me the seller had 4 offers for MORE than the 85K he contracted with after he made the deal. The real takeaway is to "prebuy" the owner and his philosophy of aircraft maintenance with as much scrutiny as you do the plane if you want to avoid really nasty surprises. Get your $$ in order and be ready to fly to BFE on a moments notice to check out a plane and owner, and take the plunge if your expectations are met.

I haven't received mine yet but here is my understanding. 1- 80-85 DB. Probably not loud enough to really get your attention. I think the lights will be a better alarm if mounted in a visible location. I don't know if you can test the alarm. 2- 2 year battery life when on constantly. Uses a CR123A that can be purchased at most local stores. 3- they recommend the 6 month calibration, claiming up to 5 years(or more) with regular servicing. I plan to do it annually. It's my understanding all CO detectors have a life limit. I'm skeptical of claims of long life detectors (some claim up to 10 years) Poke around their web site a bit. They have a fair amount of info posted. I'm not saying this is the best available, but it has a lot going for it and they were willing to work with me on offering a discount. Some befits I see with these: US made, good customer service. Small, robust, waterproof. Ability to leave on (many have auto turn off) Easily replaceable battery Cheers, Dan

Kelly and Paul it's truly amazing how accurate the flying the green circle,pink boxes along with the command bars are in concert with each other. During a MAPA course Mark enlightened me on using the green circle during nasty crosswinds. How far we've come from timing and halving our course guidance using our trusty ADF's.

Thinking about changing to this engine . 36 Cylinder Lycoming. 5000hp. What you think? STC or 337? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Minor alteration. Simple logbook entry.

Usually this means it was insured for less than the repair value. When that happens, the insurer will total the plane and pay the insured the value of the insured value. Something to pay attention to if you have a good amount of money invested in a plane. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Yes,it truely is...I remember a missed to Ketchikan Ak in 1987 and a waas approach hand flown after a hold to same airport 2015 with syn vision ,same low ifr but what a difference!

By the way Cliffy, your iPhone comes with a built-in pressure transducer. I downloaded an app called "BARO" which is essentially a pressure altimeter. It lets you set the local altimeter setting and in my plane with an IFR Cert it reads within 20-30 feet of my altimeter all the way to 10K feet (have not tested it above that). I was surprised the pressure sensor in the iPhone is this accurate. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Please, nobody quote Marauder's post and subject us to the picture again!!!

Not long enough to warm it up . . . .

For those who have one, I have a few questions. 1- How loud is the alarm? Can you test it? Can you hear it in flight over noise with head phones on? Past ANR? 2- How often do the batteries need to be charged or changed? What does it use? 3- Is the unit good for life or does it have to be overhauled frequently? It seems that most CO alarms only work for a given number of years.

Nine banks of four cylinders each. Never saw service on an airframe as turbines eclipsed it. Now its just 36 cylinders of pure awesomeness! Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I think you're trying to make Clarence jealous . . . . All of those cylinders, all of that fine plating . . . . .

Please, no!

Thanks for the tip Kelly. Another pilot also commented how powerful that feature is. It enabled him to fly to the threshold in 0/0 conditions - he has apparently put it to the test. I was going to hold out for awhile till after install, but the recent Garmin rebate of $3K with the synthetic vision had me immediately adding it during the install. I am very much looking forward to getting more familiar with it soonest.

Eman- Don't be bothered by those that claim that there are plenty of planes out there. Those that claim that it's easy to find a plane are usually not hamstrung by a budget, have low expectations, are more trusting than the rest, or just plain lucky. It pays to be at the right place at the right time, too bad we can't arrange to make that happen when we want. Indeed there are a lot of planes for sale, unfortunately, most of them have issues. Sometimes it's an oddball owner who doesn't really want to sell his plane or hasn't a clue what he owns, how it's been maintained, or what it's worth. But usually it's missing logbooks, shotgun panels, 30 year old overhauls, corrosion, fuel leaks, 360 channel nav/coms, stupid high pricing, and the list goes on. These are old, old planes and most have been subject to neglect, abuse, and poor maintenance for some if not most of their life. It's almost impossible to find a 50 year old plane without any warts for $40,000. You may have to look for a very long time or compromise. Many times a plane pops up and it's located in the middle of nowhere, difficult to access, and an elderly owner without a clue how to email out copies of the logbooks. Much time and treasure can be spent chasing a pig in a poke. Airplane shopping would be so much easier if only you had a plane! I feel your pain. I looked HARD for a C model Mooney for 6 months, my budget was $50,000. I finally gave up and finally found something else good enough in my neighborhood. I'm still watching for a nice C or E model myself, but it has to be very close to what I want, even closer to where I live, and at a price very close to what I want to pay. In the meantime, I have something to fly that is nearly as fast as a stock C model, and I'm now ready to fly anywhere to look at the perfect "C". Stick to your guns, it's your money.

Actually, I was just referring to the use of the Flight Director in the KFC150, (which is the same in the KFC200 and KFC225). I really wan't distinguishing between different types, But I believe its the same single cue style you are referring to since you need to manual fly the orange delta wing "aircraft" to the V-bar to align the top of the orange delta wing flush with the bottom edge of the V-bar. Mine has been ripped out now and replaced with the G500 with GAD-43E interface to my KFC-150. But its sill in shop till we get fuel tanks calibrated with the CIES senders for the EDM-900 - but very close to finally being done.

What's a mountain? And I complain about the bumpy ride when crossing the 1,200' hills around here.

If I told you how much money I spent in 26 years of owning my Mooney I'd be answering this thread from my Island retreat in the Bahamas instead of a traffic jam in Delaware Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

I would never consider tearing down an engine based on oil analysis.. Filter contents, yes. The report shows filter contents to be within normal limits.. I would change the oil and filter frequently and have a good engine mechanic examine the filter contents. Cam and lifter wear/ corrosion would not be expected to result in catastrophic failure if in fact you have that..

Mike, alarm-- I can hear it during taxi, I turn mine on just prior to take off, I can see the meter where I have it mounted, I now conditioned to pick it up every 10 minutes or so and look at it, I also have a useless spot battery life- my original only lasted a couple months I forgot to turn it off, I now turn it on/off after flight useful life-no clue there is lot's of info on the web I had it tested by a buddy in the business and he said it's more sensitive then his units he uses, then went on to buy some sensocon stuff I have it velcroed just under the G-1000 right of the throttles so I just move my hand an inch or so, pick it up often and keep checking it

You guys are making me nervous. Maybe from a Bonanza pilot, but from a Mooney driver???

With the continued rain uncertainty for late Saturday night and into Sunday AM here, we'll cancel the Sunday fly in. We now move it to the following Saturday, March 4th. Same times, same location. Based on the better weather forecast we're seeing for this coming week and coming weekend, next Saturday appears to be a much more solid opportunity for you all to fly to us with greater weather confidence overall. I do apologize for the inconvenience to anyone by making this change. I do hope you will be able to fly in next Saturday. Thank you.

So if the asking price was $57,000 why didn't you pay that? It sounds like it was worth it if non of the problems effect the way it flew, but maybe you were looking for a deal or a discount. What about planes that do have problems that effected the way it flys then shouldn't the buyer get an even more discount on price? but the sellers more often than not don't have realistic views of their planes and wouldn't drop the sale price enough to make it reasonable to purchase. I'm not scared of a project, or of a plane that isn't a 10 in all aspects. But why should I be dumb throwing away good money on a bad plane. If you want to take the time and sit down with me and have a beer I will gladly take you through the last 2.5 years of planes I've looked at and all the money I have spent on prebuys, and trips across the states. Prebuys at Don Maxwell. But I wouldnt trade it for buying a terrible plane that was a money pit. Your comment in the rule of thumb thread was flawed as well. You said if you can't afford the most expensive plane in that model you shouldn't buy it. Well I've been looking for a J model and the useful load I want fits in the 77'-82'. And no matter what anyone says a 77' will never have the resale value of a 97'' but doesn't mean there are not solid wonderful 77' 201's out there. And touchy subject I'm sure but did buying the most expensive 252 save you from having major issues? Spending the most money doesn't make the plane a good value. If someone wants to keep their requirements for their mission then so be it, I know I have. People complain about tire kickers, well I think the sellers trying to sell a pile or not having a reasonable view of their plane is FAR worse. I just put a deposit on a 201 with AAA today and have a prebuy scheduled with Dugosh. The 2.5 years looking has made it well worth it. And Jimmy and David not selling junk has made it all the better. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I looked at tigers for a while. It's a fun airplane to fly and a simple airplane so that makes maintenance reasonably inexpensive. The problem I ran into, is that most tiger owners seem to think they're airplane is worth more than it really is. Or rather, what the bank thinks it is worth. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

thanks we are going to leave early Friday morning. and get to LAL for about 10:30am

Mine as well. Glad to see Dan put this together and that something very positive for many pilots came from his experience.

See, I told you. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Thanks @DanM20C for setting this up. I've placed my order.

Yes, I do too. However, I have bought a bunch of cheap flashlights that look good, but fail shortly thereafter. I have sworn to only buy good flashlights now.

I've also had mine over a year, nice stuff.

The IPad altimeter works from GPS coordinates so is not dependent upon a barometric pressure setting. Generally speaking it is probably at least as accurate as a standard altimeter with a correct setting. My $0.02,

Welp..... That was easy. Called, made an appointment......wrote a brief letter starting who I am, I own the plane, lost my cert, and need another one. Appointment at 9, I got there at 820, was out by 845 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Notarpilot: It is FAA STC Approved for the FL202D and CiES TSO Senders through STC SA02825NY. So Transport Canada was watching the certification process from the sidelines as they were also interested in getting better technology available for measuring fuel. Transport Canada and the Transportation Safety Board of Canada has petitioned the FAA to do something about fuel sending in aircraft. Unlike investigations in the US, Transport Canada reviews the fuel quantity system on fuel starved or fuel exhausted aircraft. They, Canadians, point to a correlation between bad fuel indication and bad fuel performance ( A re hash of last years epic posting) as a strong majority of those accident aircraft have bad or non functional fuel indication. Transport Canada's and other countries petitions to the FAA have gone un-responded. Spoiler Alert: Yes I know some of you believe that fuel indication in the aircraft has absolutely nothing to do with running out of fuel. Yes I hear that expressed quite frequently. So Transport Canada was instrumental in the initial TSO certification of our sender and witnessed the DO-160 Environmental tests (vs, a having a USA FAA DER do the witnessing). Transport Canada saw the fuel sending unit first hand perform in the lab. Equally, just for fun, we tested a resistive new sender side by side. It was dramatically different. So when Transport Canada found out we were going after a AML STC they were fully on board and cheering on the sidelines, Transport Canada asked and were being copied on all correspondence with the FAA both Small Aircraft Directorate and Seattle . Sometime in the Fall after reviewing the roadblocks the FAA was throwing in front of the project, like the obscure lightning induced effect, and the 55,000 ft altitude, Transport Canada decided to act on their own. For background, Lightning induced effect is prevalent at the Seattle ACO as they just went through the Boeing 787 composite wing certification and it was a topical subject. Transport Canada was aware that the Aerospace Logic Canadian STC which was accepted and given a US STC number had the following wording on the face copy of the STC "OR LATER TRANSPORT CANADA APPROVAL" So just to give the FAA a thumb firmly to the nose - they provided the "OR LATER TRANSPORT CANADA APPROVAL" unfortunately they could only do it for the Canadian Aerospace Logic units. Our STC will cover JPI, EI, Analog Input Aerospace Logic & some pure OEM analog gauges for most US Aircraft. It should be done next week, but I have been here before.

I live close enough to drive over so I'll be there at least once during the week. My wife went with me last year and actually had a really good time. Says she wants to go again this year.

I have been in contact with the folks at Sensorcon working out a generous discount for pilots. I believe it will all come together tomorrow! They will be offering 20℅ off of any of their products by way of a discount code. I should get the code tomorrow, I'll post on a new thread here on MS when I get it. Cheers, Dan

I answered a PM about these but figured Id put it here as well. yep the plate is almost the same thickness as the original and is black aluminum. The etching is the black burned away by laser. Its maybe a few thousands thicker than the original plate. I was going to use a bandsaw to cut it out but a dremel will work. My plan is to trace the old one, tape off the face so I dont scratch it up and then cut it out. I am going to hit mine with a few coats of clear coat rattle can just to keep it from scratching longer. I also am planning on using glue or 3M 300LSE double sided transfer tape instead of the brad. Wasnt sure really where to get the brad.

Picture please!

I like your requirements list. And if I were you, I'd take my $45K and go buy the nicest C you can. You should be able to find one that ticks all those boxes. I'm sure a partnership would be nice, but it's also nice to have the plane all to yourself, and not have to get anyone else's agreement for anything.

Fantasy of Flight is open to the public Friday thru Sunday 11:00 to 3:00. The website says that the museum is "scaled down ". But, as much as Kermit Weeks has I'm sure you can't see it all in 4 hours. I'm hoping they are doing the engine shop tour. I just missed it last time ... I was limited to looking thru the windows.

I'll be there Thurs or Fri and maybe a weekend day if the wife wants to go.

It's always a great time. I'll be there the 7-8th holding a seat down at the beer tent after noon ( any earlier would be gauche ;)). Fly safe!

I read that as a total cost of $12,000 ? My Lynx was just over $6,000 installed. Every day you wait, you are losing use of it no matter which you pick. I can't imagine having a capable airplane like a Mooney and staying away from class B/C