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Flew from Reno down to Half Moon Bay (with a stop in Cameron Park). Before we headed South down the coast, we did a quick bay tour at 800'. Visibility was extraordinary everywhere. From over the top of Sacramento, we could see clear to the Pacific Ocean, and North to Mt. Shasta! No fog anywhere to be found. Transient parking at KHAF was EMPTY on the south side of the airport - I couldn't believe it! Got some fresh Fish/Chips/Calamari and Barbara's Fish Trap, and then headed home. Great day!

Yes, that is what it is. It is based in Zurich (LSZH). It's a 1965 M20C, so 50 years old. It had a massive panel upgrade this year, see the picture attached. Here's a couple of pics from flying in the alps. The airport pictured is Samedan (LSZS) one of the highest regular airports in Europe.

We had a nice, smooth flight last night, departing late while watching weather to make sure the fog In Fayetteville, NC, was going to clear up as forecast. Only saw a long, narrow river of fog NE of Columbia. Made most of our descent just in the yellow, between 175-180 mph. Who said it takes a J to cruise at 201 mph? Check out my C . . .

It's that time of year when we all come from work at night. Air is cool and smooth with clear skies! Great flying weather. San Diego Bay, Downtown and Point Loma. Mission Bay with San Clemente Island on the horizon and KMF amongst the lights in that darkness. It was an interesting night for aviation in San Diego. After landing after 4 other planes in front of me and plenty behind me, I cleared the runway and a lucky Bonaza pilot was warned his gear wasn't down by an observant pilot holding to takeoff. When I heard the chatter I looked back and he was feet from touching down on the runway. Then when getting ready to put my plane back in its hangar I heard someone call my name outside the fence in the complete darkness. When I walked over it was StinkBug and his mom. They where returning a twin that he was renting for his multi. He passed his multi check ride BTW, congratulations!!! He took his mom for a sunset ride around Catalina Island as his first passenger in a twin, cool! They got stuck at KMYF because of a nasty helicopter accident at KCRQ where he's based so they couldn't return in his Mooney. The good thing is we all had dinner at the local Mexican restruant then I drove them back to KCRQ.

Heck of a sunset in NORCAL last night...

For what it's worth, his chances of getting laid declines every time his wife catches him trolling on mooney space.

Guys. I must be on one of Mooney's test pilots flight path. I have seen more new planes flying around, than I have ever seen before. I hear in them in IMC, doing tests. I see turbos and O's (you can hear the difference), all are unpainted in different shades of shiny aluminum. Building this many planes makes me assume that Mooney is selling them. I know I will never be able to buy a new Mooney, but I am happy there are people that can and do buy them. Nothing really to report here other than my thoughts, but it makes me feel good knowing if I hear a single engine above, it's a better chance than not that it's a new Mooney. DF

I hope they can keep on making airplanes. More airplanes is good for all of us. I'm also glad to hear there are people who can actually purchase new airplanes. I know I'm not one of them, but I'm glad they're out there. I guess I'll have to keep flying 50 year old airplanes. Good thing they're made out of aluminum.

Love the shadow on the runway. Here's my version.

Hey guys and gals, Due to a growing family I've decided to put my J up for sale. I love the old girl and never thought we would part ways but all good things must come to an end. It's a great machine and well maintained with several annuals and visits to D Maxwell in the logs. 201PX has flown on average about 150 hours per year with a max one year of around 220 hours and a TT of around 1100 hours since I purchased her October of 08' . The engine was overhauled by Mena Aircraft Engines in December 2010 and has proven a solid performer in the 690 hours I've put on her since. It's a buy and fly plane. All of the Mooney "gotcha's" are in good shape...SB 208 complied with, tanks are leak free, gear pucks are in great shape and the airframe is corrosion free. Feel free to PM me or contact me through email. bodiebell@aoldotcom See specs below... $89,900 Approx 690 SMOH. Engine was overhauled by Mena Aircraft engines in December 2010 Useful load 1010 2 or the last 4 annuals have been performed by Don Maxwell MSC Engine burns approx 1 quart per 8-10 hours Prop overhauled 2009 Prop governor overhauled 2011 Prop dynamically balanced 2014 Magnetos overhauled 2014 New leather interior and carpet 2008 (8/10) New paint 2004 (8/10) Top and bottom cowling repainted in 2015 Interior panels painted and repaired with new chrome hardware 2014 (7/10) Tanks resealed by Wetwingologists 2004 New landing gear donuts installed 2008 SB 208-B complied with with new style insulation installed New custom leather yokes by Aero Comfort Corrosion X applied by Maxwell 2012 IFR cert 2014 Garmin 430W EDM 700 engine analyzer Concorde battery S-TEC 30A autopilot (3 axis) KT 76A transponder WX 10A Stormscope Digital tach Rosen visors Wingtip strobes Nulites on the panel SIRS lighted compass Cowl plugs with N number Reiff oil sump heater

Updated 12/12/2015 Weather is nice. Fly-in is in progress Hope everyone has a safe, fast and efficient flight. Fuel price has been reported to be below $4gal. (I have not seen it yet) Best regards, -a- Details as I know them... Airport: 47N Central Jersey Airport. (Previously known as Kupper Airport). Pretty easy to find. It's in the middle of New Jersey! Date: Saturday 12/12. Because this is the date that is best to get the most people here between major holidays (Including Oscar) Time: High noon. I intend to be early to make sure any details get covered. 11:00 for early arrivals, parking is being organized at Tri-State Aviation. 12:00 Lunch at P 'n P down the hill. 1:00 Early departures... 2:00 Later departures... Restaurant: Pizza 'n Pasta. They have homemade pasta and a wood burning oven. Go online at http://www.pizzapastanj.com/directions.htm to get informed. I selected the directions page because it shows the airport and restaurant on a google map. What to bring: A small dollar aviation related gift for a small child, Donations for a Toys for tots type campaign. Details to be filled in later. This is an annual event at Princeton airport. (Still working on the details, bring something if you can) Confirmation: Let me know if you intend to come. This way I can keep the restaurant up to date for our needs. In case of NoGo: Let me know if you can. The restaurant is familiar with pilot's needs. You are PIC. Other important stuff: 1) Fuel price for Self Serve 100LL is currently $4.2/gal. So come early and fill up. Best price in Nj. 2) For those flying a Chevy, local gas is down around $1.80 regular, cash. (We don't do self serve in NJ) 3) Special for Alan. We have your next project here. A Bravo that brushed a wing tip to a fence. The fence was declared the victor. 4) It is a short walk from the end of the runway. Let me know in advance if you need a ride from your plane to restaurant. 5) I was hoping to say I organized this by myself, but....I got plenty of help from my wife and the pants man. (Thank you(s)) I'll get it more right next time. 6) I intend to bring the O. The Chevy is Plan B. 7) Thank you to the guys who sent in their recommendations. 8) In the event of rain or less than perfect VMC, a rain date or location will be determined later. The following day at Central Jersey is a Santa fly in. Too many sleds, kids and reindeer will be roaming the ramp. 9) There is no ramp fee. 10) the Self Serve Pumps are a different business than the FBO. 11) I have been informed, Tips for the lineman is a nice way to cover his services. Hope you all can make it. Even if you you drive something plastic, or has eight cylinders, or has a wing overhead, or its got a really backwards tail. Append any questions or comments to this thread. I will do my best to get back to you. Best regards, -a- Original message below may have been outdated........................... Check your calendars, it's almost time to celebrate! What: A Mooney luncheon celebrating the successful migration of Oscar's bird back to the Northeast. Where: A NJ Airport Restaurant. TBD (Sky Manor?, Princeton area?, or other?) respond soon with your choice of restaurant. When: High noon - Saturday, December 12, 2015 (rain date Dec 13th) What to bring: A small dollar aviation related gift for a small child, Donations for a Toys for tots type campaign. Details to be filled in later. This is an annual event at Princeton airport. Consulting with Oscar, we found the one weekend to be best to meet his family moving schedule. Too soon is Thanksgiving. Too late becomes Christmas. I hope you guys in the Northeast can fit this in your schedule. This is a typical NJ fly-in. You fly the nearest thing you have to a Mooney. Talk to some other Mooney friends. Have some lunch. See what the latest updates of electronics, paint or speed mods have been installed on other Mooneys, then safely get home! How does this look so far? Let me know what I left out. Best regards, -a-

My millennial self cannot help but wonder what modern fuel injection, water-cooled, with electronic ignition would do in an airplane Add weight, I'd love to read the threads on water pump service or my radiator sprung a leak etc. remember these engines are big and designed to make power at lower rpms, if you made a 360 cubic inch water cooled engine it would be quite a bit heavier not to mention all the extra equipment needed to support the cooling system. Also modern engines make max HP at much higher rpm and you would have to add a gear reduction for correct prop speed (more weight) I agree on the electronic ignition and electronic fuel injection idea though. Once I got the bugs fixed on mine (the biggest being pilot operator error) my old school engine starts and runs fine.

Nice color! Love the undercarriage mod to your Mooney, too. or shouldtht be "mUney 2"???

An F climbs at higher Vy and lower pitch attitude than the Cherokees that many of us transitioned from. I believe it has to do with the laminar flow wing. Use ground effect to accelerate then gently pitch up to Vx or Vy. When flown as designed the F will give surprisingly good climb performance.

56 replies to priming the "easy starting" carbed birds... Impressive.

Maybe being uncomfortable will effect reduction of said "death grip"...

At gross taking off in a hot/high day it will climb but be aware your initial climb pitch will be nearly flat. Pitch for climb speed never pitch for attitude in piston planes at high DA. Once you get 500 feet or so agl climb rate always increases in these conditions. I have suspicions why but it's been something I've seen consistently in my nearly 20 years of flying the family around in the F in such conditions. -Robert

I installed a PCU 5000, it works great.The prop needs to be flushed also, it holds quite a bit of oil and sludge will build up in it over time. Although an A&P isn't allowed to do it, on a Hartzell its just a matter of screwing the dome off and replacing the O-rings when reassembling. Also if your needing new oil cooler lines consider the Lasar oil cooler relocation kit. It comes with new lines and gets the lines away from the exhaust.

This is getting good!! It is good ol' pop corn n' soda material!! Keep it coming...!!!

You've been asking a lot of questions and giving a lot of opinions, but very little factual evidence. But everyone is entitled to their opinions, for sure. But I'll stand by Byron/Jetdriven, who works in an aircraft maintenance shop, and my own 17 years of A&P experience, to say your opinions are not well founded in our experiences. And if you tell me I need to get laid more, I'll agree.

Doggone it! We had to wait for fog to start clearing at our destination, making our departure almost two hours after dark. Didn't get to record any data . . . there's alays aturday, I'll be much lighter then. At least I had kicking' tail wis tonight! Groundspeed started at 164 knots and ended at 178 knots just before descent. Not bad for a C!

Wisconsin Grouse and Woodcock even more fun That would be awesome! I could probably provide some chum...

I get plenty. Theoretically I could go to sleep tonight and wake up tomorrow the winner of the Irish sweepstakes and be married to the playmate of the year. But that is only a hundred times more likely than "the new top end jerking the bottom out". I really though you were kidding. Instead of insulting my sexual prowess, perhaps explain how the new top end can "jerk the bottom out"? Perhaps those new cylinders make so much extra horse power above and beyond 200 that the crank and rods can't handle it? Or something else?

Well, somebody needs to get laid.. I'm guessing you have not had that happen? I have....not with an airplane engine though, thus the THEORETICAL part....

Ok, thanks. The flows are really close, but there's still a little bit of roughness around 16" (in flight-everything checks fine on the ground). My prop was in good shape, so the pricing did not include any prop work; same with the exhaust. It did include rebuild of the engine mounts, and overhaul of all accessories except for the alternators. Zephyr did the engine, and they have really stood by their work with the fuel system issues.

Thanks, Urs. Wonderful pictures! Best regards, -a-

I have been meaning to get a pic of my set up to you, but it looks like you've got it all squared away!

Yes it was a terrible accident. They spun upright on the ground for what seemed like minutes. The fireman had to sit there and watch helplessly and of course the 2 on board where stuck. Come on out to San Diego! I'll trade you a day of offshore fishing for a day of Iowa Pheasant hunting!

Getting a new one of those... the original was declared "toast". Thanks. Bill

According to GAMA's report, they delivered 8 airplanes until the end of the 3rd quarter 2015, 6 Acclaims and 2 Ovations. Hope there will be some more until the end of the year so they reach double digit numbers I wonder when the M10 is going to fly. It would be really a big stepping stone and personally I think a very attractive airplane.

I used it in a quick lunchtime flight the other day but the video didn't turn out well. Looking forward to getting some good video this weekend.

Headed to Kerrville tomorrow to pick up my Rocket from its annual at Dugosh. I'll keep my finger on the shutter while on the flight line . . .

My "Time to Climb" results. 1999 M20S 310stc, Vy=105 kias Myself and a passenger=380lbs, 50g of fuel=291lbs, bags=45lbs. Field elevation -53, DA=814', Alt 29.95", Humidity 23% Alt Time Leg Temp -60'-1000' 1:14 22c 2000' 1:59 :45 21c 3000' 2:49 :50 20c 4000' 3:39 :50 18c 5000' 4:30 :51 16c 6000' 5:17 :47 15c 7000' 6:18 1:01 13c 8000' 7:12 :54 12c 9000' 8:16 1:04 10c 10,000' 9:22 1:06 9c 11,000' 10:29 1:07 7c I started timing at the start of the ground roll. After 11,000' I got to busy to get accurate numbers. I will try to get higher on another trip.

Just MHO, but I think you're doing it right. I highly recommend the LASAR cowling closure. Fairly inexpensive, seems to help lower CHTs a bit, and makes the nose look better. On the 1965 and earlier, I think it makes it look a LOT better for very little money.

ANR headsets (mine happen to be Bose X) do a good job of reducing the low frequency engine and prop noise in the "C" model. I wear them at all times in the plane. I wired the front seats for LEMO connectors which power the headset from the plane: No more batteries in the headsets. The LEMO connector is wired in parallel to the regular 1/4" and 3/16" jacks so either old style or LEMO headsets can be used.

in Florida, use Zephyr. They are a top rated engine shop.

Posted 45 minutes ago · Report post [emoji42][emoji99][emoji99][emoji99][emoji99][emoji99][emoji99][emoji99][emoji99] Okay. Here is another tidbit that I was able obtain. " there are several on the production line" That was four hours ago. DF So you telling us that Mooney has turned into the Skunk Works and that Jerry Chen is Kelly Johnson? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Thanks for the information, answers, and feedback! I am new to Mooneyspace, and am in need of learning how to post, respond, etc., so please bare with me as I try to figure it all out. First - Thanks for the feedback that several of you have already provide. In answer to a few of the questions regarding the CFI as it relates to having or desiring right seat brakes, I am a commercial airline pilot, and also an active and certified general aviation instructor. I'm not planning on using the Mooney (once we have one selected and purchased one) for instructing other pilots. This would not be a leaseback airplane. The airplane would be my personal airplane, and I would normally fly it from the left seat. I do have 3-boys including a 20 year old son who currently holds a commercial pilot license with instrument ratings. He is the one who is working on his CFI certificate, and in hopes that we could add right seat brakes. If we could equip the airplane with right seat brakes, it would allow him to do some Solo Flying from the right seat while he is practicing for his CFI certificate. My Son, is the only one that I would consider instructing in this type of airplane. With him working on his CFI, I would be sitting in the left seat while he was in the right seat. There would be no issues or problems with this arrangement. The lack of right seat brakes limits his ability to fly Solo from the right seat. Neither he nor I, would be planning on using our airplane to train anyone else. This would be a primary airplane for our use and enjoyment. I'm not sure if the effort and expense is necessary or required, but it could be a more comfortable feeling for those few situations when I might find myself sitting in the right seat knowing that I'm ultimately the one responsible for the final outcome. The bottom line, is that in all of my experience with general aviation and airline flying there are very few airplanes that I've ever flown or operated that did not have brakes on the right side. I guess this is my inexperience, lack of knowledge and general comfort that causes me to ask the question. Once again, I appreciate the feedback from all of you.

As Ross points out, you need to be seeing some high DAs before there is a noticeable difference. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

It certainly climbs slower, flies slower, etc. when heavy but not noticeably a lot worse. You will certainly notice the change in stall speed and generally if you are at max weight you are at aft CG limits as well so you have to as Ross points out be a lot smoother and more shallow in the controls, particularly when landing.

Ready to buy with all this good advise guys, Thanks!

That is not a high DA. >5000 is what I consider a high DA. I lean for anything over 3000 if the runway is on the shorter side. I don't know the condition of your plane, in my plane I would expect >500fpm through DAs of about 9000' and that's on the conservative side. If it makes you feel better, I've had my F in and out of 1800' of grass with the DA ~3500' at 2400lbs. You should do fine. Don't try and climb out at asteep angle. Let the plane accelerate and shoot for 120MIAS, that will yield a nice ROC with good cooling and forward movement. Steep angles are fine when light and solo, but gentle, smooth and shallow is what you want with a full ship.

El Niño appears to be kicking in here in So. Cal. I did my second day of skiing yesterday day at Mammoth Mountian. This is the earliest skiing I have ever done. I departed KMYF in time to catch a beautiful sun rise. And home in time to catch my son bombing some touchdown passes! A day made possible by Mooney:)

So today we took a short hop to KVCB and the air was perfect smooth clear and temp was a nice 50 degrees thought I'd run Snoopy a little harder than usual on the flight home 2500 and was able to get 24 inches at 5500 feet. Indicated was 140 knots translates to 153TAS. Did a climb at 100 and saw just under 1000fpm but that was at sea level so should be good. CHT was just under 400. While we were there we saw this Beech that looked to have had a gear up. Hate to see that.

Mooney, it's a lifestyle more than a plane... Fly fast, efficiently! Technical details, photo was taken using an iPhone, shared with my iPad, and uploaded directly into MS. It only took one teenager and one spouse to help with the transitions. Best regards, -a-

Finally had a nice day in Mojave where it was not gusting to 35kts. Had 3 flights great flights post annual. Made the airplane better in many ways. Corrected some roll tendicies. Re-rigged almost everything. Painted several things. Re-worked the seats. Mojave on the weekends is an Awesome place to test!! 3 large runways, Far enough away from flight school traffic, a great restaurant, and the tower is closed. However all the transient aircraft don't know this and announce their position inbound providing nice traffic awareness! I played with several stall series configurations, the wing is amazing. I was light and with Slight power with flaps and it hangs on till 50kts. Did several no flap landings. I think with the flaps up the airplane has more pitch authority. I can get a higher deck angle, and slow down faster. Fun stuff!!

Well, Austin TX got hammered with 14 inches or ran last Friday. It flooded the local tower and radar. The FAA have moved in a temporary tower and Houston is covering approach control. Today I went to leave KGTU (north side of Austin) with 600 foot ceilings. Another Mooney and I sat for 20+ minutes just waiting for an IFR clearance. When we got it, it came with the release. Flight following is non-existent. I sure hope this doesn't last long. On the positive side, the weather finally cleared after lunch. I stopped at T74 on the way home and I flew a gyro plane for the first time. I can see where these would be really fun in the right places. Maybe Florida. --But every cross country would be at 500ft agl.

Reading this website eats up alotta time too....