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From: https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aircraft/amt_airframe_handbook/media/ama_ch14.pdf Pump Feed Systems Low- and mid-wing single reciprocating engine aircraft cannot utilize gravity-feed fuel systems because the fuel tanks are not located above the engine. Instead, one or more pumps are used to move the fuel from the tanks to the engine. A common fuel system of this type is shown in Figure 14-14. Each tank has a line from the screened outlet to a selector valve. However, fuel cannot be drawn from both tanks simultaneously; if the fuel is depleted in one tank, the pump would draw air from that tank instead of fuel from the full tank.

Sorry. 20k plus 9k in upgrades including tank reseal, new interior with leather, new one piece windshield, compass, gyro, vacuum pump, finewires, nav comm two, tires, hoses, brake linings, other crap. This thing is a super solid, efficient, moderately fast IFR capable cross country fun machine. Best purchase in a long time. And yes I kind of just jumped into it without a prebuy in a hunch that it was a diamond in the rough. It's been great and I get compliments all the time. Airplanes run on AvGas and owners run on compliments. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

You know what they say, "it's over when the fat lady sings". She's singing...

Nothing, I repeat NOTHING is worse than a sticky shaft. Lubricate people, LUBRICATE...

Discussing bicycles and Mooney's with a few Mooniacs the other day. Here are two bikes in my Bravo. If carrying one I only pull the front wheel via quick release. Hauling two I remove the seat posts too, I belive I could get two more in there facing the other way. Handlebars are still on just covered by the towels. Not many little airplanes that can do this (and do this and also haul ass too :-) For those not familiar, the back seats go in and out in one minute. I typically fly with one or both removed.

Good Gawd, that hangar is cleaner than my arteries. Congrats on the new Mooney! My son-in-law told my daughter that my airplane has done wonders for my health. I lost weight, got off BP meds, running, exercising--get your dad healthy and remember, every 6.02 pounds lost is an extra gallon of Avgas

Change it on Sunday evening.

I've decided to sell my M20C and replace it with a newer Ovation. Currently hangared in Maryland, available now. Extensive Mooney Service Center Annual In-Process, will be valid to November 2016. New Transponder and Pitot-Static certifications valid to Oct 2017. I have owned N5911Q since 2008 and flew it starting in 2000. I know it has been kept in a hangar since 1975 through 2015. It is a mostly-stock airframe with cowl closure and a few other mods. The avionics were renewed in 2013 by stripping out all the old wiring and radios and starting over with modern WAAS equipment. There's no damage history noted in the logs, all of which exist back to her August 1965 factory roll-out. Manual gear, hand-pumped flaps are reliable and robust. Steady mechanical upgrades in the past decade are carefully detailed in the logs. 140 KTAS cruise at 9 GPH and over 950 pounds of useful load make this a good cross-country machine. It has flown from coast to coast, to Oshkosh, upstate NY and Tennessee this summer alone. More details in the attached file. Scanned logs available on request. N5911Q For Sale.pdf

They should be there, mine are. Look for an "Albums" tab toward the upper right after selecting profile.

Flew up to PVB with my wife and dog yesterday. My son is in his final year of Engineering and we went up to have pizza (at our favorite spot) and then watch Bucky get his arse handed to him by a solid Crimson Tide squad. Oh well. My 85 year old mom came out for game. She is in process of packing for a move south from her long time Platteville home. Coming full circle with Wisconsin's new coach returning to Wisconsin by way of a state championship (as a then QB) for Hillmen. Good for Paul in achieving his dream of coaching the Badgers. His dad was AD of local college (George) and instrumental in bringing the Bears to P-ville in '85 fwhen a then punky QB (Jim McMahan) took them to a super bowl win. I remember running into Jim (who played barefoot) while with my dad. My son and I enjoyed a nice round before pizza on my old home course. Groundspeed on way up was 160 knots. Decent from 5500 into Platteville was uneventful at 170ish knots. Talking to a young Cherokee driver on a straight in for 15. I did left turn to downwind flying pattern midfield. Fun to watch him land from that perspective. Nice squeeker and a smile from my wife for the effort. New replacement ear seals for my Bose and new i-pad air worked great on the yoke mount giving winds/runway and nice runway extension with barber poles (in Garmin Pilot). Mom let me take a nice cast tiffany style lamp...that I used to enjoy in my Grandmother's house...just down the street from my home. Very fragile so Kelly thought flying it home was "ill-advised". Bag in baggage, golf clubs in back seat behind me. Dog in rest of backseat. Lamp stand in baggage. Blanket in baggage. Lampshade in. Ezzy-peaszy. Enjoyed a 113 ground speed return at 4500. 13 with a nice squeeker. 10 gusting to 20, but was close enough down runway to be another easy landing. I love GA. I love my Mooney. Life is Good.

I can not think of a single valid reason to use the boost pump at cruise altitude. Even running a tank dry and having to restart the engine is just an annoyance and certainly not an emergency. Of course if my engine coughed every time I switched tanks, I'd use the boost pump to eliminate that annoying cough, but it never has. And I just don't see using the boost pump "just in case". I agree to using the boost pump during take off. Losing the mechanical pump at that time would be an emergency at best and catastrophic at worst. I don't use it on landing as I'm more of a pattern altitude until the runway is made and then chop the power rather than a stabilized approach kinda pilot. Of course when I'm on the ILS or other Instrument approach, it's stabilized and the boost pump is on. So why not use it just because? I'm sure like most things, it's only got so many cycles in it before it's an expensive replacement. Therefore I'll use it when it makes sense and not "just because".

I switch it on because the POH says so... - it may not be necessary but it won't hurt either. Why would I care? I am just happy if the engine keeps running... I once had a problem with a PA28 switching tanks and despite the aux pump running and the other tank half full the engine quit. Switching back to the initial tank helped and the engine started after some coughs... Minutes later I switched back to the right tank and - surprise - the engine kept running. Never found out what the problem was but since then I always hold my breath when switching tanks...

like a diamond in the not so rough. Pride of ownership is already starting to show. Nice mooney

http://donmaxwell.com/publications/MAPA_TEXT/M20-202 - Eight-Second Ride/EIGHT_SECOND_RIDE.HTM

Yep, sure sounds like resistance .. It will return.

At least I'm not suggesting somebody take their airplane to 15,000 feet and kill themselves to determine the flutter speed of their aircraft. Too far.

the only fault is i need more pictures !!! did you repaint after you reseal job ? carl

Glad to see you are back! best regards, -a-

You must've gone flying today. I recognize that feeling!

yes

You taxied onto the grass around the other planes? wow, just wow.... I hope you were joking...

Two primaries sound like an oxymoron.

Erik, did is you lose your sign in credentials? Aviatoreb? best regards, -a-

It's really the type of engine installation that calls for use of the boost pump. It's not all money's at all, but all Lycoming Mooneys that use the Boost pump on takeoff, landing and changing tanks. Many of you say older 60's POH's don't mention using the boosts pump for changing tanks but it sure does in later years when the the POH's became much more thorough. But non of the Continental installations call for use of the boost pump except in an emergency and this has everything to do with how different the two fuel injection systems work. With the Lyc installation the boost will simply eliminate the fuel pressure oscillations and will not allow excess fuel to be pushed through the fuel controller but with the Continental you need two different circuits - high and low boost so you don't overly enrich the cyls with two much fuel. I can't recall specifically if the advise to run a tank dry was ever put in the fuel injected POH's but keep mind running a tank dry on a carbureted mooney is a non-event and much different than doing it in a fuel injected Mooney. Delaying the tank switch in the FI mooney may surprise you as to how long it takes to restart. Try it in a Turbo charged installation and you may find yourself taking 30 seconds and have no luck at all till you descend to 12K! It's really important to understand the systems used in your Mooney from both a trouble shooting standpoint as well as giving you informed knowledge for how to best operate your mooney and avoid surprises. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I find that when I don't use the pump the fuel pressure bounces slightly for a few minutes after switching. Running he pump prevents that. -Robert

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that's such minute possibility as to be disregarded. The pump also has dual diaphragms and will continue to operate with one torn. The fuel pump drain line will give clue to that. These diaphragm fuel pumps usually run to TBO and beyond. Perhaps it's the most reliable accessory on the rear of the engine. I usually follow the POH unless I have a compelling reason to do otherwise. For a short or confined area takeoff, of for one where are no suitable options for a forced landing, I'll use it for takeoff. Other than that, I won't. But mooney says in case of power failure switch tanks and turn the boost pump on. Mine is the farthest right switch and is right near the throttle. Be ready to instantly turn it on in case of engine power loss The biggest reason not to use the Dukes pump is economic. It costs 1400$ to overhaul it and it is not rated for continuous duty. When we first bought the plane my wife was out practicing landings. Pump on for takeoff and landing like the book says. After an hour of this the pump seized. Dukes wanted to investigate this, so we sent them the pump. I had to buy another new pump with core charge n the interim. So it was 1000$ for the first pump, 1000$ for the second one, plus 800$ for a core charge. And I had to wait 4 weeks to get the original one I sent in overhauled, because no cores were available. So 2800$ and 4 weeks later I was flying. I simply won't use it unless I need to because of this.

On my Android phone running Chrome, there is no "New Content" cue anywhere that I can find. Any suggestions?

agreed, just to purge air , when you are on a empty tank, I never do that and don't use the pump. I don't know why i use it on take off , well just in case the engine pump fails, that why i use it.

I am one of those [web] developers of whom you speak. I could be convinced to fix the homepage for not $ since I already live here.

Actually they agree pretty closely. What did struggle once with is what if anything I should do if either of the primary tach or MP functions failed on any of them. Since they are both considered primary, if my EI tach stopped working, am I still legal to fly since the JPI is also primary? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I have EZtrends operational on my Windows 10 64 bit system - just had to setup the compatibility options to do so. The newer the version of Windows the easier it is it seems they make setting the compatibility options. But as mentioned, except for the LeanFind function in EzTrends which I really liked, I otherwise find the Savvy Analysis app on the web superior - but I use it daily and have become pretty adept at using it. It allows me to view multiple graphs at a time and the Gami spread button is nearly as good at Eztrends LeanFind function and it provides additional niceties such as the Delta function and Rate function. And perhaps the best feature of all is you can share your data with anyone plus you get a professional help with analysis as many people do. There are lots of Mooney pro subscribers!

Safe and wise takes some judgement; in smooth air you could descend right at Vne, but a bump or gust could put the white needle on the wrong side of the red radial, and that might wake up the bogeyman. I don't know if it lends me any authority, but I used to be the Chief Flight Instructor for a university aviation program, where I instructed and signed off many Initial CFI applicants. I also taught an aviation class at the University. Currently fly jets as a corporate pilot.

The issue is not likely 64-bit, it's the serial interface. I'm on my second 64-bit laptop retrieving data from my EDM-700, and I just plug in the JPI-provided cable to the provided EDM-700 port, then plug the serial-port end of that cable into a Keyspan by Tripp Lite USA-19HS USB-to-serial adapter, then plug the USB end into my laptop, and it all works great. (I tried a couple of other adapters, and for reasons beyond my willingness to figure out, they didn't work, but this one did.) You can find one of these adapters on Amazon or probably lots of other places. They cost $32 or so. Not CB-conforming, but it works. Good luck!

Load your data into saavy's free web-based program. Works great and had better interface IMO. Visit https://www.savvyanalysis.com Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I saw a commentator on CNBC a number of years back who talked about how paying for a child's college education was a poor investment toward ones own retirement. Can't remember all of the particulars but he had some interesting and compelling points. I do think it is rediculous for someone to pay 250k for a child to get an English lit or sociology degree or the like which have little or no utility. I for one insist that the program of study have utility, ie business, engineering, etc, if I am to make a contribution.

I was also be sure that the hing shim AD from a couple of years ago had been completed. Might even be a good idea it to look at it again.