cleatus99 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Howdy, I am a new Texas Mooniac! I just bought a good bones 201... Upgrading paint and interior, and radios My last airplane was a Cherokee 180' I also have a glider and a gyroplane. Here is the last picture I got of her, in pre-buy(annual) And my home base... 3700' of turf Mine is where the party is... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clh Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Welcome. Â There is a lot of knowledge here. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooneymite Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Welcome! Â Is that 7TS0? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N9201A Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Welcome. Â I have been blessed with more than 16 years of 201 ownership and also upgraded from a Cherokee (PA28-151). Â There's never been a better time for this aircraft! Â I have a friend who bases his 252 on a grass strip and am glad to see another person who understands that, operated correctly, a Mooney is just fine on grass! Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooneygirl Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Welcome to the family. I would encourage you to join our professional association, MAPA, and there are a couple of facebook groups as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Stallings Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 N9201A, Guess I have to ask. What is the correct way to operate a Mooney off of grass? I'm not asking in a Disrespectful manner, I just want all the input possible. From time to time I have to take the turf for business Reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdjohn4 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Love the blue on beige. Very sharp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Cody-- My C operates off grass the same as asphalt, except I'm more careful. Give it a little more up yoke on takeoff, rotate at 70 mph like always. I usually have Takeoff flaps on grass, but save them for heavy departures on asphalt. All of my landings are full stall, no change there for grass. Less braking is required, and again a little extra up yoke. Taxi requires more power. You know, same as most any other plane on grass. Just watch the prop clearance, and avoid soft ground. I also avoid wet and frosted grass, which are slippery. Beware of long grass on short fields, and allow for slightly longer takeoff rolls. When I visit a nearby 2000' grass field, I restrict myself to 2 people and half tanks. I've yet to need a real soft field departure, flying in ground effect to accelerate to Vy. This works well for my occasional visits to grass fields. Those based there may have other comments. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Cody-- My C operates off grass the same as asphalt, except I'm more careful. Give it a little more up yoke on takeoff, rotate at 70 mph like always. I usually have Takeoff flaps on grass, but save them for heavy departures on asphalt. All of my landings are full stall, no change there for grass. Less braking is required, and again a little extra up yoke. Taxi requires more power. You know, same as most any other plane on grass. Just watch the prop clearance, and avoid soft ground. I also avoid wet and frosted grass, which are slippery. Beware of long grass on short fields, and allow for slightly longer takeoff rolls. When I visit a nearby 2000' grass field, I restrict myself to 2 people and half tanks. I've yet to need a real soft field departure, flying in ground effect to accelerate to Vy. This works well for my occasional visits to grass fields. Those based there may have other comments. And don't forget about "It's Groundhog Day!" Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar Avalle Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Welcome to our great side. You will find a lot of great advice and a lot of fun. It is a great community. Regarding your question about turf and grass fields. Don't worry too much about it (Although I have to say the first time I landed on one I was scared to death). Just be as precise as possible, check you speed and make sure that the field is in good shape. If you want I have some videos of me landing on grass strips...  Oscar  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuBPKyU-fEOZGWKutpVtFKw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testwest Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Welcome, Cleatus! You will love your M20J!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTK Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Welcome aboard Cleatus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Belville Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I was based on a grass field for several years though I retained a shade T spot at the public airport across town during the winter. Hank's comments are spot on. I do recall always pulling the yoke back full for taxi. ISTM the greatest risk of a prop strike is dropping the nose wheel in a hole or ditch at slow speed. (Ironically, I managed to do that last year on a paved ramp!) Â While a good grass strip is better (think tires and brakes) than a paved field, your insurance company probably will charge a little more for basing a plane on a grass strip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleatus99 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Runway is 58T ~3700' I've got a Glider SGU 2-22E And a Calidus Gyrocopter I'm building. I've met Don, and several of the gang that was at Red Bird last month. Howdy Mooniacs.... Now I just need one of those I love to Fly Fast shirts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamb.hicks4 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 That Mooney was owned by a acquaintance of mine and has spent the last several years of its life operating out of Leeward Air Ranch. It is very familiar with grass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooneymite Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Runway is 58T ~3700' Â Â Living with your plane is the way to go, for sure! Â I see Airnav gives you credit for 3000'. Â It's probably like our runway....it depends on who wants to know. Â If you're from the county, it's 2500' and a very short 2500', if you're from the insurance company, it's 4800' and it's a long, unobstructed 4800'. Â If you're a prospective homebuyer, it's about 4500' give or take. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleatus99 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 We have a lot of overrun area... I think the 3000' official is light to light, not fence to fence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketAviator Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Cleatus99 Welcome if u r reference the AOPA at red bird we may have met. Bucko & I were on display for Mooney Ambassadors. .. Watch out Jolie will snag you too....lol it is a great GA service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantom Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I don't even like to taxi on grass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Belville Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I don't even like to taxi on grass I suspect taxiing is riskier re prop strikes than l/TO. A Mooney based with me at KMRN had to do an engine tear down several years ago at SunNFun after a friendly parking volunteer led him across a shallow ditch. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooneymite Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I don't even like to taxi on grass  And that's generally a sound operating principle!  Not all grass is created equal.  There are grass fields that are darn near perfect, there are others best left to bush airplanes and damn fools.  The trick is to know the difference.   If you don't KNOW....don't go.  (I've operated my Mooney out of a grass field for 16 years, now.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonal Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Dirt is for farmin, had to do some dirt taxi time a few weeks ago and i was so careful ended up fine. some one posted a thread titled terror. well thats the most frightened i have ever been in my plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMuncy Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Erik, The Red Bird Cleatus was referring to was the VMG fly-in at Red Bird (RBD, now Dallas Executive). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleatus99 Posted July 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Welcome aboard Cleatus! I like your paint scheme I've been hunting for a design with a checkerboard flag tail.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleatus99 Posted July 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Thanks for clarification Don... I'm getting word I won't get to fly mine till it's out of the paint shop ~mid September Ohh well, at least I'll have the newest prettiest fastest mooney till then Now if I can get 2 hours of dual between now and then...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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